Beast Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) These are no longer riots. History will look back on this as the beginning of America’s 2nd Civil War. People are going to start getting shot at an alarming rate. Edited May 31, 2020 by Beast 1 1
billsfan1959 Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Motorin' said: There's no leaders of antifa, and no formal structure. So any moron can show up to public demonstrations clad in black and do whatever they want... I did hear a leading civil rights attorney, Lee Merritt, articulate two needs to address unjust killing of people at the hands of the police. One is federal legislation that revokes implied immunity so that officers need to have actual threats to administer lethal force. Under current law, officers only need the say they believed there was a threat to their lives to be found not guilty of wrong death. So objective guidelines in the use of lethal force is one rather than subjective standards. And two, they are pushing for comminity review boards of police conduct so that the community has the right to review the actions of officers who police them. People like Lee Merritt have never been in a situation where his life might depend on split-second decisions made entirely on subjective interpretations..... 2 1 1
Prickly Pete Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, meazza said: Yeah, they're crazy Progs, the people we have been telling you are out of their minds. in other news... If there is one area that deserves a riot, it is Beverly Hills, Bel Air, Hollywood Hills, etc. These are some of the people that have been promoting and profiting off this dissension. Maybe if Bill Maher's house gets ransacked, he will change his tune. Edited May 31, 2020 by Prickly Pete
Boatdrinks Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: People like Lee Merritt have never been in a situation where his life might depend on split-second decisions made entirely on subjective interpretations..... Yep. There’s a reason why this isn’t the way things are done. It’s an awful idea. Unless you like having a lot of Police funerals per annum. A split second of hesitation could mean death for a law enforcement officer. Also, as to Motorin’ post - it’s not exactly true that all the officer has to do is say they believed a threat existed. It has to be a threat that a reasonable person would perceive. Definitely not a blanket excuse. Not relevant in the Floyd case, but certainly is in many others. Lawless criminals don’t care if they discharge their weapon at a cop. 10 minutes ago, Prickly Pete said: Yeah, they're crazy Progs. Lots of ‘em out there. Converted and brought to you by CNN Edited May 31, 2020 by Boatdrinks 2 2 1
meazza Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 I’m not sure what’s worse, the riots or the fake solidarity by all the Facebook warriors or influencers on Instagram. 2 1
billsfan1959 Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Yep. There’s a reason why this isn’t the way things are done. It’s an awful idea. Unless you like having a lot of Police funerals per annum. A split second of hesitation could mean death for a law enforcement officer. Not relevant in the Floyd case, but certainly is in many others. Lawless criminals don’t care if they discharge their weapon at a cop. I wish the people who have the worst opinions of law enforcement had even the slightest idea of what it is like to deal with emotionally charged, potentially violent situations, and knowing other people will have all the time in the world to evaluate decisions you have to make instantaneously. 1
RiotAct Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, meazza said: I’m not sure what’s worse, the riots or the fake solidarity by all the Facebook warriors or influencers on Instagram. I CAN STAND!!!!!
Doc Brown Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, meazza said: I’m not sure what’s worse, the riots or the fake solidarity by all the Facebook warriors or influencers on Instagram. The riots. 1 1
Chef Jim Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 10 minutes ago, meazza said: I’m not sure what’s worse, the riots or the fake solidarity by all the Facebook warriors or influencers on Instagram. I'm staying away from FB for that exact reason. 1
meazza Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: The riots. You obviously don’t follow many influencers.
US Egg Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Yep. There’s a reason why this isn’t the way things are done. It’s an awful idea. Unless you like having a lot of Police funerals per annum. A split second of hesitation could mean death for a law enforcement officer. Also, as to Motorin’ post - it’s not exactly true that all the officer has to do is say they believed a threat existed. It has to be a threat that a reasonable person would perceive. Definitely not a blanket excuse. Not relevant in the Floyd case, but certainly is in many others. Lawless criminals don’t care if they discharge their weapon at a cop. Lots of ‘em out there. Converted and brought to you by CNN Put on CNN for the first time in along time, against my better judgement about 30 minutes ago. Never watched Don Lemon for more than five minutes, but watched him for that duration. He thinks he is wryly pitching a non violent support narrative. He loves the riots. 1 3
meazza Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 Just now, I am the egg man said: Put on CNN for the first time in along time, against my better judgement about 30 minutes ago. Never watched Don Lemon for more than five minutes, but watched him for that duration. He thinks he is wryly pitching a non violent support narrative. He loves the riots. Has he ever found that plane?
Doc Brown Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 28 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: People like Lee Merritt have never been in a situation where his life might depend on split-second decisions made entirely on subjective interpretations..... Better police training and the mandatory use of body cameras should continue to be the goal. 2 minutes ago, meazza said: You obviously don’t follow many influencers. Copernicus, Einstein 1
Boatdrinks Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, I am the egg man said: Put on CNN for the first time in along time, against my better judgement about 30 minutes ago. Never watched Don Lemon for more than five minutes, but watched him for that duration. He thinks he is wryly pitching a non violent support narrative. He loves the riots. I’m not surprised. He’s the biggest racist on TV in my opinion. 1 1
meazza Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: Better police training and the mandatory use of body cameras should continue to be the goal. Copernicus, Einstein More accountability as well. Again, it’s not normal that it takes this long for a cop to be charged in such a clear cut case.
Boatdrinks Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: Better police training and the mandatory use of body cameras should continue to be the goal. It’s a fine goal , however almost everything is caught on some type of camera these days. Training is always essential and is stressed now more than ever. Those things will not get rid of all bad apples, though. It’s not a perfect world. The Cop in the Floyd case went against any procedure manual out there. 1
billsfan1959 Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Better police training and the mandatory use of body cameras should continue to be the goal. No argument there. Training is better than it has ever been, officers are more educated than they have ever been, and law enforcement agencies are more diverse than they have ever been. What is really needed is an honest national dialogue where the starting point is not that law enforcement agencies are systemically racist. 1 2
Doc Brown Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, meazza said: More accountability as well. Again, it’s not normal that it takes this long for a cop to be charged in such a clear cut case. You have to get body camera footage, witness testimony, autopsy results, etc... That's my guess of why it took that long.
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