Reality Check Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: Copying the libs to own the libs. Nice! It's easy money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billsfan1959 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just now, SectionC3 said: The officers and the looters, etc., all are wrong here. The issue is the attempt to identify an equivalency between the acts. Based on what I’ve seen, George Floyd’s death isn’t a murder. But it could well be a manslaughter. The wrongful taking of a life is infinitely worse than the inexcusable acts of thievery, destruction of property, looting, etc. that have occurred. They don’t belong in the same conversation. The looters absolutely are disgraceful and wrong. But that’s a conversation to be had separate from the police brutality issue that we unfortunately have to again grapple with as a society. Correct, they are all wrong. I don't believe anyone is equating the taking of a human life with arson or theft. You can condemn all those behaviors in the same sentence without it being some sort of statement on the equivalency of the acts. I don't believe it is murder either. Probably 2nd degree manslaughter in Minnesota - although not sure about their specific homicide laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: Link? To extrapolate the actions of specific individuals into how people in an entire profession think, what motivates their behaviors, or that they outright condone this type of behavior is beyond ridiculous. Why didn't the 3 officers who held George Floyd down stop the fourth officer from kneeling on his neck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 The left can't help but destroy where they live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just now, Motorin' said: Why didn't the 3 officers who held George Floyd down stop the fourth officer from kneeling on his neck? I'm sure they have been, or will be, asked that very question. How is that relevant to how the other 800,000 or so law enforcement officers in this country think, are motivated, or view this kind of behavior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Why didn't the 3 officers who held George Floyd down stop the fourth officer from kneeling on his neck? They're supposed to according to my friend. He's a cop and said that they have situations where the other officer will take over. Tell the first officer to take a 5 and cool off. It happens a lot because of the adrenaline but your fellow officers are supposed to help if they see you in a situation like this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, B-Man said: This is definitely sobering. Hard to believe this is happening in America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Fortunately for the criminal mob destroying where they live, there is no contact tracing yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Only a moron just accuses someone of something just because you are a frustrated idiot. Buzz off, if you can understand that Lol, you are stupid. Seriously What are you talking about? I honestly am trying to understand what you are saying. You said, something to the effect of, "if he's charged". That indicates a high level of uncertainty/corruption rooted in a racism. That type of language riles people up, contributes to a narrative, and is at best, premature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Correct, they are all wrong. I don't believe anyone is equating the taking of a human life with arson or theft. You can condemn all those behaviors in the same sentence without it being some sort of statement on the equivalency of the acts. I don't believe it is murder either. Probably 2nd degree manslaughter in Minnesota - although not sure about their specific homicide laws. I don’t know the Minn laws either, but I share your suspicion that man 2 would be in order if the crime occurred in NYS. An aggressive prosecutor might hit him with murder 2 under intentional and depraved indifference theories in NYS and use man 2 as a backup if neither of the top counts sticks. This is the type of case that has the potential to be overcharged, so who knows. 10 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: This is definitely sobering. Hard to believe this is happening in America No kidding. 2020 is on fire. Just when you think it can’t get any crazier, it does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I'm sure they have been, or will be, asked that very question. How is that relevant to how the other 800,000 or so law enforcement officers in this country think, are motivated, or view this kind of behavior? You really don't think there's pressure to stand with fellow officers even when they're wrong and have been numerous examples of people being ruined for testifying against fellow officers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Motorin' said: You really don't think there's pressure to stand with fellow officers even when they're wrong and have been numerous examples of people being ruined for testifying against fellow officers? You really think the actions of four people speaks to the opinions/attitudes/beliefs of many thousands? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 ‘Don’t forget the gas can!’ Guess who’s off to fan the flames in Minneapolis today Hey, you know what Minneapolis needs right now to calm things down? Al Sharpton. Said no one ever. But he’s going there anyway: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just now, Motorin' said: You really don't think there's pressure to stand with fellow officers even when they're wrong and have been numerous examples of people being ruined for testifying against fellow officers? I think it is human nature to stand with someone you know and like when they do something wrong, no matter the profession. But there are distinctions and limits. There is no general pressure, as a law enforcement officer, to stand by and allow a fellow officer to cause the death of somebody. None. If it occurs in a specific situation, it is driven by the dynamics of that situation and those involved. I really cannot tell you why the other officers did not intervene. I could only see two officers in the video. My guess, if you are interested, is that, as it was transpiring, the gravity of the situation really didn't register with them. It is easier to see in hindsight. As for officers lives being ruined for testifying against fellow officers, if it happens, it is a rarity - particularly in a situation where an officer's actions were reckless or intentional and resulted in someone's death. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, Motorin' said: You really don't think there's pressure to stand with fellow officers even when they're wrong and have been numerous examples of people being ruined for testifying against fellow officers? In this case, it was pretty egregious and the other officers should have stepped in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 56 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: In this case, it was pretty egregious and the other officers should have stepped in. There's video footage that actually shows the 'other' officers. Two of them are down at Floyd's feet, also trying to constrain him. The fourth is standing at Floyd's head doing nothing. I'm guessing that Floyd was aggressively resisting arrest, but it still doesn't excuse the officer from kneeling on his throat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, B-Man said: ‘Don’t forget the gas can!’ Guess who’s off to fan the flames in Minneapolis today Hey, you know what Minneapolis needs right now to calm things down? Al Sharpton. Said no one ever. But he’s going there anyway: Perhaps he can remind us all again that what happened to poor Tawana Brawley was real, and that a Grand Jury just "saw it differently" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, B-Man said: Why can't more Hollywood celebrities be decent human beings like this? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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