Tommy Callahan Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 The LEFT seems to have turned into supporting violent fascist they call protesters. If you march, with mask and violently attack peaceful protesters, you are fascist.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 12:23 PM, njbuff said: Sorry, I forgot that ALL Trump supporters are racist. How could I forget with the MSM reminding me every day. Is that all you people have is calling Trump supporters racist? People who support Trump are numb to this by now and people like me who hold no political affliction are tired of the left's racial rhetoric. Even still, this might not be enough to keep the Dems from taking over the house in November. Sadly. Expand Oh, they're not. They just have no problems with supporting someone who is incredibly racist, and who empowers people who are incredibly racist. I mean, I could also have mentioned women having agency in their own medical choices as something that terrifies Trump supporters, but that is harder to visualize. On 8/21/2018 at 1:26 PM, westside said: When you have nothing, resort to name calling. So very weak..... Expand Name calling? It's their names. One of the groups in attendance was literally the National Socialist Movement. This is what they call themselves. After that, it's all correlation. I'm just saying: presence of white nationalists, Klansmen and Nazis: 3 dead and multiple injured College kids committing institutional vandalism (for which they should be punished): zero dead, zero injured Just saying, maybe it's the Nazis who are bad people. Crazy idea, I know. 1
outsidethebox Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 4:36 PM, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Oh, they're not. They just have no problems with supporting someone who is incredibly racist, and who empowers people who are incredibly racist. I mean, I could also have mentioned women having agency in their own medical choices as something that terrifies Trump supporters, but that is harder to visualize. Name calling? It's their names. One of the groups in attendance was literally the National Socialist Movement. This is what they call themselves. After that, it's all correlation. I'm just saying: presence of white nationalists, Klansmen and Nazis: 3 dead and multiple injured College kids committing institutional vandalism (for which they should be punished): zero dead, zero injured Just saying, maybe it's the Nazis who are bad people. Crazy idea, I know. Expand You know what's crazy? The "nazis" aren't the ones with a hood on covering their face. The "good" guys are!!! That's so crazy, right?
Deranged Rhino Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 4:36 PM, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Oh, they're not. They just have no problems with supporting someone who is incredibly racist Expand Please list the examples, with sources, which makes Trump someone who is "incredibly racist."
3rdnlng Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 4:54 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Please list the examples, with sources, which makes Trump someone who is "incredibly racist." Expand He's not worth your time.
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) On 8/21/2018 at 4:36 PM, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Oh, they're not. They just have no problems with supporting someone who is incredibly racist, Expand Document the evidence that the President is a racist. This is nothing more than an ugly fiat declaration based on nothing more than your desire to disparage someone with whom you have political differences. Quote and who empowers people who are incredibly racist. Expand By "empowers" I have to assume you mean "aren't willing to violate the rights of"; which is just another way of saying you're the type of person who believes the government should prosecute thought crimes, and finds no value in human freedom. Your argument isn't compelling. Quote I mean, I could also have mentioned women having agency in their own medical choices as something that terrifies Trump supporters, but that is harder to visualize. Expand Do you mean "supports the human rights or the most vulnerable people on the planet?" Any position staked out atop a mountain of aborted humans isn't one grounded in morality. That's pretty easy to visualize. Quote Name calling? It's their names. One of the groups in attendance was literally the National Socialist Movement. This is what they call themselves. Expand As you well know, ideology is not a transitive property. Just because disparate groups support one narrow idea does not somehow comingle and conjoin the rest of their ideas. Unless you mean to say that because you and I both feel that it's not acceptable to murder you, you and I are ideologically the same, and you can justly be labeled as my ideological brethren. Quote After that, it's all correlation. I'm just saying: presence of white nationalists, Klansmen and Nazis: 3 dead and multiple injured College kids committing institutional vandalism (for which they should be punished): zero dead, zero injured Expand This is nothing more than a special pleading (logical fallacy) argument seeking to excuse the bad behavior of those who show up to protest white supremacist organizations. White supremacists, as distasteful as they may be, are perfectly free to espouse their ideas, and should be able to do so without threat of physical violence against them. If the "short skirt" defense is wrong for rapists (and it is), so is your defense of violence against white supremacists. Quote Just saying, maybe it's the Nazis who are bad people. Crazy idea, I know. Expand It's not mutually exclusive. Edited August 21, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker 3 1
IDBillzFan Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 4:54 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Please list the examples, with sources, which makes Trump someone who is "incredibly racist." Expand Oh, I know this one! He's always calling black people dumb! 1
njbuff Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 4:54 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Please list the examples, with sources, which makes Trump someone who is "incredibly racist." Expand DR, he’s just another moron who calls Trump a racist with ZERO evidence to back it up. It’s very tiresome and debates are OVER once racism comes up. I say if you think Trump supporters (or half the country for that matter), leave the country and go to a country that’s not racist. Facts aren’t these bozos friend. 1
Taro T Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 5:38 PM, LABillzFan said: Oh, I know this one! He's always calling black people dumb! Expand Actually, pretty sure the answer will be "Muslim ban" and "border wall." Likely w/ an assortment of other ideas that were tweaked by the media enough to sound a lot different than what they are. Followed by a flourish of tweets, which in fairness, really do come across poorly quite often.
Deranged Rhino Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 4:36 PM, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Oh, they're not. They just have no problems with supporting someone who is incredibly racist... Expand On 8/21/2018 at 4:54 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Please list the examples, with sources, which makes Trump someone who is "incredibly racist." Expand
3rdnlng Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 7:07 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Expand Hey, leave Chalky White out of this! 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 4:36 PM, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: They just have no problems with supporting someone who is incredibly racist Expand I'm going to forego calling you a low-IQ, low-information buffoon for the moment and ask for documentation of Donald Trump's "incredibly racist" behavior.
donbb Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 Here's a pretty comprehensive list through early this year of reason's why Trump is seen as a racist - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html #fakeNEWS #WALKAWAY The points in that column are certainly a better argument than this On 8/21/2018 at 6:42 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Blindly speculating (the most dangerous kind) based on the reports of one 30 something male nodding in agreement with the judge this morning as he told the jurors they had to respect the minority view, it would seem probable that the hold out is not a narrative follower. That would lead me to believe he's in Manafort's corner. Expand
Doc Brown Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 7:20 PM, donbb said: Here's a pretty comprehensive list through early this year of reason's why Trump is seen as a racist - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html #fakeNEWS #WALKAWAY Expand I criticized Trump throughout the campaign for giving a wink to the alt right and white nationalists, but I haven't seen clear evidence of him being a racist. He's an equal opportunity offender. He just sees people as winners (those that support him and are successful) and losers (those that don't support him). 2
DC Tom Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 7:20 PM, donbb said: Here's a pretty comprehensive list through early this year of reason's why Trump is seen as a racist - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html #fakeNEWS #WALKAWAY The points in that column are certainly a better argument than this Expand "African-Americans are living in hell" as an observation of inner-city blight and poverty is racist? 1
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 7:20 PM, donbb said: Here's a pretty comprehensive list through early this year of reason's why Trump is seen as a racist - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html #fakeNEWS #WALKAWAY Expand That's an intellectually dishonest hit piece which seeks to find racism as it's primary goal, and as a result chooses to use a racist lens to view everything, rather than seeking proper context. It's not at all objective, and doesn't try to be. The goal is to convince the reader that the President is a racist, not to identify the truth. But then, you aren't interested in truth, you're interested in division and hatred. 3
Deranged Rhino Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 7:28 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: That's an intellectually dishonest hit piece which seeks to find racism as it's primary goal, and as a result chooses to use a racist lens to view everything, rather than seeking proper context. It's not at all objective, and doesn't try to be. The goal is to convince the reader that the President is a racist, not to identify the truth. But then, you aren't interested in truth, you're interested in division and hatred. Expand It's all Gary knows and all he brings to the board over multiple years and account names. He's an intellectually dishonest, cowardly troll. Always has been. Always will be.
IDBillzFan Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 7:20 PM, donbb said: Here's a pretty comprehensive list through early this year of reason's why Trump is seen as a racist - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html #fakeNEWS #WALKAWAY The points in that column are certainly a better argument than this Expand From the article: Quote In 1989, on NBC, Trump said: “I think sometimes a black may think they don’t have an advantage or this and that. I’ve said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I really believe they do have an actual advantage.” Expand So Joe Biden is a racist for explaining that Obama was "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." Do you nuts even think through what you're writing, reading and citing?
donbb Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 8:26 PM, LABillzFan said: From the article: So Joe Biden is a racist for explaining that Obama was "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." Do you nuts even think through what you're writing, reading and citing? Expand What Biden said was certainly insensitive and racist. He owned up to it and apologized for it. Trump hasn't owned up to ****. 2
IDBillzFan Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 8:45 PM, donbb said: What Biden said was certainly insensitive and racist. He owned up to it and apologized for it. Trump hasn't owned up to ****. Expand Did he own up to it and apologize before or after he said you need to be from India to manage a 7-11. And did he apologize for that, too? So to be clear, you can be a racist as long as you apologize every time you're a racist? Do leftists call that The Biden Rule? 1
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