machine gun kelly Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Does anyone remember the padding on Mark Kelso's helmet that he used for 5 years? He had two serious concussions and it was recommended that he never play football again. The Bills trainer new somebody that developed padding for the outside of his helmet and he never had another concussion. His nickname was "The Great Kazoo" because the padding made his helmet larger. It didn't look sleek, but it worked. During that same time, Steve Wallace, a 49er offensive lineman had the padding on his and he also never suffered another concussion. It baffles me that more people don't talk about that or that the padding hasn't been used more. Love that little green guy. Then again, the Flinstones were one of my favorite cartoons as a kid after Bugs. Sounds like you are addressing everyone under 40 and good post. Us older guys remember Both Great Gazoos very well. in all seriousness, if there is truth, and i have no idea, that this extra padding really protects the head, I could care less if they run around like bobble heads if it helps these guys. Sometimes, you have to protect them from themselves. For example the NFL mandated some of the leg pads coming back on to deflect some injuries. In my opinion, if everyone has to wear them, and it truly protects from injury, the NFL should mandate pop warner padding. it would be an even playing field. They just take this stuff off to get an edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 @AP_NFL VIDEO: What's next for the #NFL and CTE in terms of concussion settlement? http://apne.ws/1PcJH8J @jimlitke @noahcoslov "To have said anything other than that would have been ridiculous at this point," said Dr. Robert Stein of Boston University, who expects to find a way to diagnose CTE in the living within five to seven years. What will happen then? Will this be an all or nothing or probability thing? Will players be required to sign waivers to continue playing? Will players have to be tested before they are signed or even before they can go to draft forum? IMO this is NOT just due to NFL football; there are probably genetic markers which lead to higher chance of this occurring, activities other than NFL Football (high school and pre-high school sports, college sports, other activities, accidents, bar fights, drugs) which contribute to this issue and some players probably still do other activities in off season which contribute. There has been shown a link between cigarettes and lung cancer but NOT EVERYONE gets it - George Burns lived to 100 and smoked 3 packs a day. NFL is just the cash cow which needs to pay for what should be shared with others including players; make every head shot by a player a 10% of salary and portion of signing bonus and the head shots will stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 how does nfl player CTE compare to people who never played football ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 Giants owner John Mara on concussions: 'This year was a setback' John Mara admitted the NFL had a difficult time with concussions this past season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I'm Tim Connolly and I approve this message. Because some players have sustained head injuries playing hockey does not prove that playing hockey is just as much of a risk as playing football. You should be smarter than that. How many Bills sustained concussions last season alone? How many Sabres have sustained concussions this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 @NewsdaySports Former NFLer @R_Oben believes the rewards far outweigh the risks when it comes to football https://t.co/HfaZEiNXVc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 Jerry Jones: It's 'absurd' to say there's a link between CTE and football Jones' assertion flies in the face of medical research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Jones is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Jones is an idiot. Is he really though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 Is he really though? Way to protect the shield Jerrah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 This a very good story out today. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/football-and-cte--fear-has-overshadowed-facts-161625351.html so much work still to be done. As i mentioned well upthread, to only autopsy guys who already show signs of CTE just does not cut it in my mind. But, i also think it important to not dismiss...just keep expanding and researching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 how does nfl player CTE compare to people who never played football ? No female athletes have been found to have had CTE, The New York Times reports. is there a possible genetic predisposition to CTE ? https://m.the-daily-record.com/opinion/2016/03/18/editorial-a-gift-for-cte-study this is like global warming.....where the sample size is very small. There has been climate change for over 1 Billion years.......and yet in a miniscule sample size , some science folks want to say that what has taken place in the most recent 200 years of the last 1,000,000,000 years is what should be considered "normal". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Jerry Jones said yesterday there is no link between CTE and football. Ironic because I think Jerry has CTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Conrad Dobler Comments on Memory Loss, Life After NFL Career http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2627142-conrad-dobler-comments-on-memory-loss-life-after-nfl-career?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial Sad , he looked like Burt Reynolds in his playing years. Dobler, known for such transgressions as punching Mean Joe Greene, spitting on a downed and injured opponent (the Eagles' Bill Bergey), and kicking Merlin Olsen in the head https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_Dobler Edited March 24, 2016 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 The NYT has a very lengthy front page story alleging that (a) the League-mandated studies of head injuries were faulty (and probably intentionally so--for ex., some teams (including Jerrah's 'Boys during the Aikman years no less) didn't report in their concussions) and (b) the League took a tobacco industry approach to the issue by hiring several lawyers and lobbyists who had tobacco experience. Jerrah was not speaking in a vacuum yesterday--he knew this was coming..... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/sports/football/nfl-concussion-research-tobacco.html?_r=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 It is important to remember Mr. Miller was answering specific questions at the time and his comments should not be construed as a blanket statement regarding existing theories on CTE and brain trauma. The NFL remains committed to studying all impacts of player injuries and continue to seek solutions to ensure greater player safety in the future. Are you serious? Jerry Jones denied the link yesterday. They must continue to deny the science in order to limit their liability. It is the same tactic that the tobacco executives used from the 60's and 70's. The NFL is committed to their bottom line, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Are you serious? Jerry Jones denied the link yesterday. They must continue to deny the science in order to limit their liability. It is the same tactic that the tobacco executives used from the 60's and 70's. The NFL is committed to their bottom line, period. Did you skip reading the title of the thread you are posting in? The NYT has a very lengthy front page story alleging that (a) the League-mandated studies of head injuries were faulty (and probably intentionally so--for ex., some teams (including Jerrah's 'Boys during the Aikman years no less) didn't report in their concussions) and (b) the League took a tobacco industry approach to the issue by hiring several lawyers and lobbyists who had tobacco experience. Jerrah was not speaking in a vacuum yesterday--he knew this was coming..... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/sports/football/nfl-concussion-research-tobacco.html?_r=0 Jeez....they should make a movie about this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Are you serious? Jerry Jones denied the link yesterday. They must continue to deny the science in order to limit their liability. It is the same tactic that the tobacco executives used from the 60's and 70's. The NFL is committed to their bottom line, period. To answer your first question, no, he's not serious--in fact, Mr. G (or whoever plays him here) should win an Internet Oscar for his brilliant performance art portrayal of the League's "Corp speak".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 A big story has just dropped ... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/sports/football/nfl-concussion-research-tobacco.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0 Already linked this morning. But yeah a huge and not so surprising development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 The NYT has a very lengthy front page story alleging that (a) the League-mandated studies of head injuries were faulty (and probably intentionally so--for ex., some teams (including Jerrah's 'Boys during the Aikman years no less) didn't report in their concussions) and (b) the League took a tobacco industry approach to the issue by hiring several lawyers and lobbyists who had tobacco experience. Jerrah was not speaking in a vacuum yesterday--he knew this was coming..... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/sports/football/nfl-concussion-research-tobacco.html?_r=0 very damning story. wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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