Deranged Rhino Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I came across this article about the courts finding Iran liable for $10.5 billion to various parties for their role in 9/11. Of course, Iran didn't have a role in 9/11 but let's not let facts get in the way of geopolitics. Iran doesn't even acknowledge the case let alone the decision, so it's more political theater than actual litigation. Normally I wouldn't share this article because it's clearly slanted (full disclosure) but the anecdote told in it should open some people's eyes to just how far some will go to make war. It's from 2008 but I never heard it before and thought it interesting considering the coming election: http://ahtribune.com/politics/662-judge-iran-911.html/ original source http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2008/07/31/26940/cheney-proposal-for-iran-war/?mobile=nc Why do some in the U.S. government think the rest of us will find outlandish war plots believable? Because they in fact engage in them. Here is Seymour Hersh describing a meeting held in then-Vice President Dick Cheney's office: "There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war. The one that interested me the most was why don't we build — we in our shipyard — build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy seals on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up. Might cost some lives. And it was rejected because you can't have Americans killing Americans. That's the kind of — that's the level of stuff we're talking about. Provocation. But that was rejected." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I came across this article about the courts finding Iran liable for $10.5 billion to various parties for their role in 9/11. Of course, Iran didn't have a role in 9/11 but let's not let facts get in the way of geopolitics. Iran doesn't even acknowledge the case let alone the decision, so it's more political theater than actual litigation. Normally I wouldn't share this article because it's clearly slanted (full disclosure) but the anecdote told in it should open some people's eyes to just how far some will go to make war. It's from 2008 but I never heard it before and thought it interesting considering the coming election: http://ahtribune.com/politics/662-judge-iran-911.html/ original source http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2008/07/31/26940/cheney-proposal-for-iran-war/?mobile=nc Why do some in the U.S. government think the rest of us will find outlandish war plots believable? Because they in fact engage in them. Here is Seymour Hersh describing a meeting held in then-Vice President Dick Cheney's office: "There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war. The one that interested me the most was why don't we build — we in our shipyard — build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy seals on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up. Might cost some lives. And it was rejected because you can't have Americans killing Americans. That's the kind of — that's the level of stuff we're talking about. Provocation. But that was rejected." bull ****. There's easier, cleaner, more deniable, cheaper, and safer ways to provoke a war with Iran. Triggering a war with Iran would be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 the recent demise of H2 and it's endless reruns of Ancient Aliens has left a Tsoukalos sized void in the batschitt crazy theory department. greggy seems to be seeking his fix elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Not exactly on topic......................but I'm throwing it in here Saudi Daily: Iran Replaces Israel as the Gulf States' No. 1 Enemy http://bit.ly/1RY6WIf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Not exactly on topic......................but I'm throwing it in here Saudi Daily: Iran Replaces Israel as the Gulf States' No. 1 Enemy http://bit.ly/1RY6WIf That's not exactly news. The Saudis didn't buy Strike Eagles to fight Israeli Strike Eagles, after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 That's not exactly news. The Saudis didn't buy Strike Eagles to fight Israeli Strike Eagles, after all... Cut me some slack Tom, I'm sweating out the NCAA Bracketology Show at the same time. Go Bonnies !...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 bull ****. There's easier, cleaner, more deniable, cheaper, and safer ways to provoke a war with Iran. Triggering a war with Iran would be easy. What's bullshite? That they actually discussed that plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 What's bullshite? That they actually discussed that plan? Seymour Hersh in general. But yeah...that they discussed that plan. What were they thinking of building again? Boghammers? North Korean coastal patrol boats? Osa-class missile boats? Built brand-new, In American yards? Then ship them halfway around the world, deploy them in one of the busiest straits in the world (and heavily patrolled by the Iranians, I should add), shoot up an American warship, sink their newly-constructed faux-Iranian boats, and use it as an excuse to go to war... ...without anyone noticing the Iranians didn't lose a boat, and without the thousands of people that would have to be involved not noticing that the "Iranian" boats sailed halfway around the world to attack the US Navy in the stupidest manner possible (note: the Iranians are rarely stupid) and with ample precedent for that not being a casus belli (e.g. Operation Preying Mantis?) There would be no discussing that plan. Anyone dumb enough to pitch that as a plan would be laughed out of the room. The only person I could see stupid enough to even mention it is Hersh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Gulf of Tonkin The attack on the US Liberty Operation WashTub Operation Northwoods The bombing of the Chinese embassy The bombing of doctors without boarders just add to the list of false flags, rejected false flags, or accidentals on purposes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Gulf of Tonkin The attack on the US Liberty Operation WashTub Operation Northwoods The bombing of the Chinese embassy The bombing of doctors without boarders just add to the list of false flags, rejected false flags, or accidentals on purposes Forgot Bush Did 9/11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Cut me some slack Tom, I'm sweating out the NCAA Bracketology Show at the same time. Go Bonnies !...................... Is it that time again? I don't follow college basketball, but doesn't ESPN do a live three-hour telecast around Barry's bracket? Are they not doing it this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Forgot Bush Did 9/11 And Katrina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 And Katrina. Everyone knows Bush hated the chocolate city and used his weather warfare powers to try and wipe it out. Common knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 the recent demise of H2 and it's endless reruns of Ancient Aliens has left a Tsoukalos sized void in the batschitt crazy theory department. greggy seems to be seeking his fix elsewhere I sent a request to viceland for an episode of gaycation in tehran or riyadh. Strangely, no one's gotten back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 And Katrina. Katrina was the work of Yakuza as payback for Hiroshima Of course they used Dick Cheney's weather machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 the recent demise of H2 and it's endless reruns of Ancient Aliens has left a Tsoukalos sized void in the batschitt crazy theory department. greggy seems to be seeking his fix elsewhere I missed this yesterday. Normally I'd agree -- but I'm not sure what batshite theory I'm pushing here. I'm not pushing a theory at all, just highlighting one actual plan that was discussed as a way to spark a war with Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Katrina was the work of Yakuza as payback for Hiroshima Of course they used Dick Cheney's weather machine But it still wouldn't have happened if Bush hadn't personally dynamited the levees surrounding the black neighborhoods, and told people to "shelter in place" at the Superdome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 But it still wouldn't have happened if Bush hadn't personally dynamited the levees surrounding the black neighborhoods, and told people to "shelter in place" at the Superdome. Remember when Bush let the air out of the tires of all those buses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Forgot Bush Did 9/11 Can't put them all in one post but lets add death of Pat Tillman narrative , the Jessica Lynch narrative, the Iraqi throwing infants out of incubators narrative, and the Bin Laden hiding behind his wives narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Can't put them all in one post but lets add death of Pat Tillman narrative , the Jessica Lynch narrative, the Iraqi throwing infants out of incubators narrative, and the Bin Laden hiding behind his wives narrative. don't forget he hates black people #blacklives matter!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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