Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Racist! U RAYSIS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 BO so divisive that he won two general elections - 2012 with a 50 percent plus majority... DT has - what 35 percent of 30 percent...which gives him...10.5 percent... If you are in the 50% that supports him, great. If not get in the back seat. Yes that's unity and leadership. It's not like he used the IRS to target political opposition groups or anything. No divisiveness here move along. I am not claiming trump is a unifier but you holier than thou progressives need to check yourself and look in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 The oh so very tolerant leftist Bernie supporters: How Bernie Sanders supporters shut down a Donald Trump rally in Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 If you are in the 50% that supports him, great. If not get in the back seat. Yes that's unity and leadership. It's not like he used the IRS to target political opposition groups or anything. No divisiveness here move along. I am not claiming trump is a unifier but you holier than thou progressives need to check yourself and look in the mirror. He didn't use the IRS to target anyone, total crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 BO so divisive that he won two general elections - 2012 with a 50 percent plus majority... Not only that, but he was really helpful down ticket. I mean, yeah, he managed to lose both the House and the Senate. And yeah, they lost over 900 state senate seats since 2009. And yeah, they lost 11 gubernatorial seats since 2009. And yeah, they lost 30 state legislative chambers since 2009. Other than that...helluva play, Mrs. Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 He didn't use the IRS to target anyone, total crap Sorry did you say something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 (edited) Cool thanks for stopping by and conveniently ignoring the problem. the problem is that the inmates have actually come to believe they can run the asylum. I don't think any reasonable person can ignore that fact. as i said, there is a precedent and it didn't go very well until reasonably sane people regained control. Are you sure it's historical precedent? yes.: 2. Convention or custom arising from long practice: The president followed historical precedent in forming the Cabinet Edited March 14, 2016 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 the problem is that the inmates have actually come to believe they can run the asylum. I don't think any reasonable person can ignore that fact. as i said, there is a precedent and it didn't go very well until reasonably sane people regained control. yes.: 2. Convention or custom arising from long practice: The president followed historical precedent in forming the Cabinet Well, as long as you didn't use futuristic precedent I guess you can repeat yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 GO TRUMP The more they try to stop him the better his showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 GO TRUMP The more they try to stop him the better his showing. TIL Mead is a Trump supporter. I find that a bit surprising, but you do you Mead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 TIL Mead is a Trump supporter. I find that a bit surprising, but you do you Mead. Either that or he's hitting the wine early today. Stumbles in. "GO TRUMP!!! <hic>" Stumbles out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Either that or he's hitting the wine early today. Stumbles in. "GO TRUMP!!! <hic>" Stumbles out. I used to think that Cruz would be a decent plan b but it's starting to look like he's just another establishment stooge. What a devious punk Cruz is. Siding with MoveOn? Maybe it's the anti Trump people that should lay off the drank. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/11/ted-cruz-says-violence-at-trumps-canceled-chicago-rally-starts-at-the-top/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I used to think that Cruz would be a decent plan b but it's starting to look like he's just another establishment stooge. What a devious punk Cruz is. Siding with MoveOn? Maybe it's the anti Trump people that should lay off the drank. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/11/ted-cruz-says-violence-at-trumps-canceled-chicago-rally-starts-at-the-top/ I would politely ask you to check again. The "Cruz sides with protesters", was a narrative quickly picked up by the media/left and by the Trump campaign Here is what he said, as violence broke out, and Mr Trump's rally was canceled all together. Now, the responsibility for that lies with protesters who took violence into their own hands.” That’s true and it was important to say it. The next thing Cruz said was also exactly right: n any campaign responsibility starts at the top. Any candidate who is responsible for the culture of the campaign. And when you have a campaign that disrespects the voters, when you have a campaign that affirmatively encourages violence, when you have a campaign that is facing allegations of physical violence against members of the press, you create an environment that only encourages this sort of nasty discourse. That is not an indictment of Donald Trump for what lawless protesters did in Chicago. It is an indictment of Trump for encouraging rogue behavior, which inevitably begets more rogue behavior and perversely enables thugs to portray their thuggery as justifiable retaliation. Conservatives are champions of vigorous debate within the bounds of civil discourse. As conservative commentators who have been threatened, shouted down, censored, banned from speaking, and full-time demagogued will tell you, the point is not just to get one’s message across; it is the principle that the message is entitled to be heard even if it is unpopular. That is why we do not stoop to thug tactics or urge that the Left — with its legacy of laundering one-time terrorists into “social justice” activists — deserves an eye-for-an-eye. The law of the jungle is not the rule of law that we advocate. Civil society has to be civil society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I would politely ask you to check again. The "Cruz sides with protesters", was a narrative quickly picked up by the media/left and by the Trump campaign Here is what he said, as violence broke out, and Mr Trump's rally was canceled all together. Now, the responsibility for that lies with protesters who took violence into their own hands.” That’s true and it was important to say it. The next thing Cruz said was also exactly right: n any campaign responsibility starts at the top. Any candidate who is responsible for the culture of the campaign. And when you have a campaign that disrespects the voters, when you have a campaign that affirmatively encourages violence, when you have a campaign that is facing allegations of physical violence against members of the press, you create an environment that only encourages this sort of nasty discourse. That is not an indictment of Donald Trump for what lawless protesters did in Chicago. It is an indictment of Trump for encouraging rogue behavior, which inevitably begets more rogue behavior and perversely enables thugs to portray their thuggery as justifiable retaliation. Conservatives are champions of vigorous debate within the bounds of civil discourse. As conservative commentators who have been threatened, shouted down, censored, banned from speaking, and full-time demagogued will tell you, the point is not just to get one’s message across; it is the principle that the message is entitled to be heard even if it is unpopular. That is why we do not stoop to thug tactics or urge that the Left — with its legacy of laundering one-time terrorists into “social justice” activists — deserves an eye-for-an-eye. The law of the jungle is not the rule of law that we advocate. Civil society has to be civil society. well said....and yet to the anarchists here, trump is a phenomenon borne of Obama's presidency. nope, it's borne from misplaced anger from those mostly disenfranchised ex middle class folks whose financial lives trump would mostly make even worse. the only candidates that would likely help these folks stop their downward spiral would be the last candidates these people would generally support. but reasoning is generally not the strong suit of this group. they do anger very well, however. this is the natural consequence of a republican party drawn further and further right over many years by dangerous, self promoting zealots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I would politely ask you to check again. Let me add that Breitbart.com is completely and fully in the Trump tank, so it's no surprise they are ready to tweak their stories to damage the guy Andrew Breitbart considered to be the truest conservative in the GOP. People are jumping off the Brietbart wagon left and right, starting with Shapiro and Fields after the alleged assault on Shields. The staff knows Trump is a fraud, but they don't get any of Trump's cash, so they're not as easy to sway. Breitbart has become the right's answer to Salon. Paid for by the highest bidder. well said....and yet to the anarchists here, trump is a phenomenon borne of Obama's presidency. nope, it's borne from misplaced anger from those mostly disenfranchised ex middle class folks whose financial lives trump would mostly make even worse. the only candidates that would likely help these folks stop their downward spiral would be the last candidates these people would generally support. but reasoning is generally not the strong suit of this group. they do anger very well, however. this is the natural consequence of a republican party drawn further and further right over many years by dangerous, self promoting zealots. Oh, please. You're *this* close to literally nominating a socialist to run the country on the ridiculous promise of free college. You're the last one who should be talking about how far extreme a party has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 He didn't use the IRS to target anyone, total crap So the IRS folks took it upon themselves to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 well said....and yet to the anarchists here, trump is a phenomenon borne of Obama's presidency. nope, it's borne from misplaced anger from those mostly disenfranchised ex middle class folks whose financial lives trump would mostly make even worse. the only candidates that would likely help these folks stop their downward spiral would be the last candidates these people would generally support. but reasoning is generally not the strong suit of this group. they do anger very well, however. this is the natural consequence of a republican party drawn further and further right over many years by dangerous, self promoting zealots. Reasoning has nothing to do with it. Not wanting handouts however does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 this is the natural consequence of a republican party drawn further and further right over many years by dangerous, self promoting zealots. All motion is relative. Maybe as the democrats continue to move farther left, its just harder for you to see the right (conservative) citizens. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 (edited) Oh, please. You're *this* close to literally nominating a socialist to run the country on the ridiculous promise of free college. You're the last one who should be talking about how far extreme a party has gone. different argument. Bernie is not telling gigot or maddow to stfu. he's not inciting violence. he's not offering legal fees for supporters punching protestors. and he's not going to win his party's nomination. trump is doing or is going to do all of these things. oh, and Bernie is speaking truth or at the very least what he truly believes to be the truth. trump is certainly not. by appealing repeatedly to the lowest common denominator and the most base instincts and emotions, the right wing talking heads have slowly and systematically enabled him. now they're upset. wah!!!.... Edited March 14, 2016 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 different argument. The only one making a different argument is you. Try to stay with me... You wrote this: this is the natural consequence of a republican party drawn further and further right over many years by dangerous, self promoting zealots. I wrote this: Oh, please. You're *this* close to literally nominating a socialist to run the country on the ridiculous promise of free college. You're the last one who should be talking about how far extreme a party has gone. My point was how far extrene both sides are going, violent idiocy notwithstanding. The GOP has a fake Republican urging his supporters to fight back (sounds a little like Obama's "bring a gun to a knife fight" no?) and you have a guy -- one step away from the DNC nomination -- convincing America's youth that the problem with our country is it's not a socialist state. But hey...you keep kicking the Trumpettes. Few people want Trump out as much as me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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