Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 Manny at ILB is interesting to me. He can still run like the wind. Smart. This has come up in other threads. He was conspicuously good at MLB in the last game and although he's not a prototypically sized mlb, he's fast, he's one of the smartest guys on the field, he can cover and he's quietly been a solid contributor his whole tenure.
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Umm, how is this "blasting" Preston?i have no problem with it. This is the same approach Urban Meyer takes with his players. He publically challenges them to do better, step up, that they aren't good enough. It works. And those are college kids. For some players it might not work, especially established veterans who already have been paid and it might just piss off, but the HC tries to find out what methods motivate what players. He believes this will motivate Preston to get to the level he needs him to be. Preston is a guy who needs to earn a second contract, besides getting to the level of leadership the Bills need to win. Edited March 6, 2016 by YoloinOhio
NoSaint Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) It's a figment of some people's imagination. It's certainly public criticisms towards a player that called out the coaches on the same topic. Pick a different term if you want, but you can be sure that when brown woke up and read this he wasn't happy. Will it work? Maybe. But it was certainly an intentional barb through the media Edited March 6, 2016 by NoSaint
26CornerBlitz Posted March 6, 2016 Author Posted March 6, 2016 It's certainly public criticisms towards a player that called out the coaches on the same topic. Pick a different term if you want, but you can be sure that when brown woke up and read this he wasn't happy. Will it work? Maybe. But it was certainly an intentional barb through the media Rex never muzzles his players when it comes to public criticism. He let the players say what they were feeling and they did. This is professional football and old school coaches like Lombardi would be laughing at some of the commentary that claims Rex was wrong for calling out a player with higher expectations.
boyst Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 Rex never muzzles his players when it comes to public criticism. He let the players say what they were feeling and they did. This is professional football and old school coaches like Lombardi would be laughing at some of the commentary that claims Rex was wrong for calling out a player with higher expectations. rex never muzzles his players but the problem in ny was that he never answered to them. instead he claims he doesn't read the media. a megalomaniac to know his own words and take so many quotes but not read one bit of what his players say - if we are to take him at his word. of course, he's a proven liar so we shouldn't. it would be one thing if he actually took responsibility in the media for what his players accuse. but instead he battles this stuff in the media like a schlub. that's not a good leader.
#34fan Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 I do not like the way Ryan handled this. I truly, and I promise that with sincerity, hate that Rex Ryan has to be a factor in this story. But, for him to be speaking the way he did - talking about Brown being smart, and wanting him to step up... it'd be different if Rex Ryan had proved something here. He hasn't. This is a very divisive statement from Rex Ryan. Especially, we all must consider the other statements. If Ryan is going to keep making shots across the bow as he is with Brown and comparing him to another player he formerly coached after Brown criticized the coaching staff for not doing their job last year than we are in trouble. If Rex is going to point to everyone elses flaws and compare them to other players, ones he formerly coached with his previous team, no less than he MUST take in to account for his misgivings and shortcomings last year and answer for those. Nonsense. -If he did that, there'd be no room for blustery speeches and worthless guarantees! You know, some of us actually tremble a the possibility of JOINT blustery, blow-hard, gobbledygook monologues from Wrecks and Rob. So don't ruin it for us. Take a time-out, mister... Go eat a effing snack, or something.
boyst Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 Nonsense. -If he did that, there'd be no room for blustery speeches and worthless guarantees! You know, some of us actually tremble a the possibility of JOINT blustery, blow-hard, gobbledygook monologues from Wrecks and Rob. So don't ruin it for us. Take a time-out, mister... Go eat a effing snack, or something. you might be one of only a few who will enjoy the 2016 season in this case.
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 rex proved to be mediogre? awesome. well, we the buzz word is usually continuity. we'll disagree on this one. but yes, a lot wrong with it when you do it publicly in the media. you don't make a compliment sandwich in the media. you give compliments and respect. not dirty laundry and failed expectations. The point is you can't win without players .
eball Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 no, it's not. why compare someone who is young and learning his second system in his second year to someone who was brought in and understudied a while before taking the helm. harris had a very good defense around him when he joined and learned the role of ryans defense in time. absolutely no need for bringing up harris, much worse to compare what harris is good at to what brown wasn't. not everyone is a genius. and rex has proven nothing in buffalo yet. Yeah, I just disagree. I think Rex's comments are intended to motivate Preston, not discourage or trash him.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 Also explains why the defense didn't suck the last couple of games. Wonder what the plan is going forward. they should have figured that out sooner
Dopey Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 To call a complex play on D at the last second at home when the Ralph is the noisiest , good luck .Don't forget the late substitutions on d.
NoSaint Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 Yeah, I just disagree. I think Rex's comments are intended to motivate Preston, not discourage or trash him. Obviously. I would hope his goal isn't to discourage him. boyst is saying he did a poor job concocting/executing the plan of motivating him.
boyst Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 Obviously. I would hope his goal isn't to discourage him. boyst is saying he did a poor job concocting/executing the plan of motivating him. which is why rex is famous for needing his players. which is depressing. his players don't come easily - they come at a premium. and while you could argue ryan made some of his players, most of them were premium talent. from ed reed and ray lewis to revis and many others. he had premium talent and there is no direct evidence he got the most out of them. The point is you can't win without players . like all pro defensive ends? yeah, we need those. Yeah, I just disagree. I think Rex's comments are intended to motivate Preston, not discourage or trash him. maybe so. but rex has proven that he is not a very good motivator. and with bad blood between rex and brown already in the water i'm just waiting for a taylor swift breakup song.
FireChan Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 which is why rex is famous for needing his players. which is depressing. his players don't come easily - they come at a premium. and while you could argue ryan made some of his players, most of them were premium talent. from ed reed and ray lewis to revis and many others. he had premium talent and there is no direct evidence he got the most out of them. like all pro defensive ends? yeah, we need those. maybe so. but rex has proven that he is not a very good motivator. and with bad blood between rex and brown already in the water i'm just waiting for a taylor swift breakup song. I would be unsurprised if Brown was one of the anonymous players that defended Mario/bashed Rex last season.
boyst Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 I would be unsurprised if Brown was one of the anonymous players that defended Mario/bashed Rex last season. we had some good debates on the board about that. who it would or could be and who it definitely wasn't. i forgot the whole structure of it but brown was likely one of the players pro williams
FireChan Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 we had some good debates on the board about that. who it would or could be and who it definitely wasn't. i forgot the whole structure of it but brown was likely one of the players pro williams It's a major reason why I still don't see the whole team buying in again next year. Mario may have been the most obvious insurbordinate but he wasn't the only one. Dareus is another high on that list, and he isn't so easily cast aside.
boyst Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 It's a major reason why I still don't see the whole team buying in again next year. Mario may have been the most obvious insurbordinate but he wasn't the only one. Dareus is another high on that list, and he isn't so easily cast aside. rex is extremely savvy with marketing himself and the press. he will know better than to zero in on dareus, but he will go after the easy low hanging fruit. i will now unveil our 2016 scapegoats: preston brown kyle williams the learning curve of the new defensive end and get ready for it... manny lawson. rex will sell out his ass in a heartbeat and let him float down river so fast when he realizes that lawson is a very good lb but limited in his ability. ryan will make the mistake of putting too much responsibility on lawson in this scheme that he will appear to fail - however, he will continue to play solid just like he did in 2014 with schwartz. the untrained and casual eye will blame lawson.
4merper4mer Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 It's a major reason why I still don't see the whole team buying in again next year. Mario may have been the most obvious insurbordinate but he wasn't the only one. Dareus is another high on that list, and he isn't so easily cast aside. Guys tend to buy in to systems that work. Rex's doesn't. it is as simple as that. The obvious and best solution is to modify the system but Rex seemingly can't. So he is left in a position where he has to lash out at Brown wishing he was Ray Lewis or something. He isn't. I believe Rex's heart is in the right place. It is his brain that is the problem.
Beerball Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 Guys tend to buy in to systems that work. Rex's doesn't. it is as simple as that. The obvious and best solution is to modify the system but Rex seemingly can't. So he is left in a position where he has to lash out at Brown wishing he was Ray Lewis or something. He isn't. I believe Rex's heart is in the right place. It is his brain that is the problem. When Manny Lawson is the success story of your defense you have problems IMO.
3rdand12 Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 eball knows his job, just not getting his team focused on the project. he is a good at his job should be able to get it, his dad was a partner. he's got to learn to step up, though. stan is quiet when it comes to outside of the office but he comes in and he is the ceo every time. that eball hasn't grasped the ceo role yet, he has to learn to mature...eball should get it, and HE HAS TO in order to survive. how's that for a comparison? Its alright s a compare, but i don't see it as a negative thing. I am sure he has his talks with Preston too.He has not insulted he just said he expects more. I think its a fair explanation of the problems they had on the field. Rex also mentioned the player to Coach and Coach to player communication needed to improve. That's a fair shot too. Hopefully Brown and Lawson spend some quality time together and better the whole defense To call a complex play on D at the last second at home when the Ralph is the noisiest , good luck . I am going to again suggest, they were calling in what should have already been called by Brown and he missed it. I forgive him and i think Rex does too. Something they will focus upon. Brown IS a smart kid ! This has come up in other threads. He was conspicuously good at MLB in the last game and although he's not a prototypically sized mlb, he's fast, he's one of the smartest guys on the field, he can cover and he's quietly been a solid contributor his whole tenure. agreed. he can get the job done. But they all need to be working in unison of course. Players who missed assignments often made some one else look bad. Rough year all around for the Bills really. Growing pains i suspect : ) I would be unsurprised if Brown was one of the anonymous players that defended Mario/bashed Rex last season. nor I. and dareus was none too happy with Rex i might guess.
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