26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 @ChrisTrapasso Only way Cromartie joining #Bills would be halfway decent: if he's super cheap & if plays S . Still kinda pointless. Knows the scheme though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Leo >>> Cro :/ If this is true. Cromartie must be one hell of a bad player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 If this is true. Cromartie must be one hell of a bad player.oh, he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) Leo and Cro are similar players; Leo is probably the better athlete, but the key difference is that Leo is an idiot who is being asked to learn a complicated new defense. At least Cro knows the defense already. Edited February 28, 2016 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Leo and Cro are similar players; Leo is probably the better athlete, but the key difference is that Leo is an idiot who is being asked to learn a complicated new defense. At least Cro knows the defense already. One Gets it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Leo and Cro are similar players; Leo is probably the better athlete, but the key difference is that Leo is an idiot who is being asked to learn a complicated new defense. At least Cro knows the defense already. If Leo's an idiot because he was slow picking up Rex's defense, then there are a lot of idiots on our D. That being said, I would agree that, for whatever reason, Cro is the better CB, even if it is just for a Rex defense.But, I assume, his asking price would be pretty high for a second string player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) Leo and Cro are similar players; Leo is probably the better athlete, but the key difference is that Leo is an idiot who is being asked to learn a complicated new defense. At least Cro knows the defense already.i don't know if there is any evidence that Leo didn't pick up the defense. He even switched positions and contributed immediately in the "complicated new defense." At least we know Leo can play safety too. Edited February 28, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 He's finished, let the jets make the mistake of signining him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I say Add Crow, restructure Mckelvin and Graham then trade Gilmore for a 1st rd pk or maybe for another player. We save cap space and still have a strong core of Cbs Darby Graham Crow Mckelvin Robey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I've been wondering, since you can't have 2 top 5 paid CBs, do you take a risk that Darby won't regress and trade Gilmore for a 1st? Darby can be extended in 2 years, Gilmore will likely only be in the middle of his top 5 CB contract. With our cap situation it's something to think about. I don't know if Gilmore would or would not get us a first round pick in a trade. That said, I for one would rather see the Bills get a first for Gilmore than see him signed to a huge guaranteed contract that would hurt us badly in terms of cap space. This of course is jmo. At this point, it may be in the Bills interest to concentrate on offense. They need blockers and another receiver, but there IS talent there. The defense will probably suck under any conditions as long as Rex is running it, and he probably has little say on the offensive side, so their best hope to win might be as an offensive juggernaut. The above is surely not my favorite brand of football but with Rex as coach, options and chances are surely limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I don't know if Gilmore would or would not get us a first round pick in a trade. That said, I for one would rather see the Bills get a first for Gilmore than see him signed to a huge guaranteed contract that would hurt us badly in terms of cap space. This of course is jmo. At this point, it may be in the Bills interest to concentrate on offense. They need blockers and another receiver, but there IS talent there. The defense will probably suck under any conditions as long as Rex is running it, and he probably has little say on the offensive side, so their best hope to win might be as an offensive juggernaut. The above is surely not my favorite brand of football but with Rex as coach, options and chances are surely limited. Good teams draft, develop, and retain their key players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 i don't know if there is any evidence that Leo didn't pick up the defense. He even switched positions and contributed immediately in the "complicated new defense." At least we know Leo can play safety too.I agree 100% Mckelvin played pretty good the last few gms of the yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 They've been in the defense for a full year. It's that complicated that they are still struggling to learn it? You have to factor in the fact that McKelvin wasn't able to practice until well into the regular season due to his ankle injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 So he can't read and watch film? Sure he can, that's why he was able to pick Fitz in the final regular season game against the "superior" Jets. He studied their route combintions on tape and knew the tendencies based on down and distance. Still, nothing like on field reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I don't know if Gilmore would or would not get us a first round pick in a trade. That said, I for one would rather see the Bills get a first for Gilmore than see him signed to a huge guaranteed contract that would hurt us badly in terms of cap space. This of course is jmo. At this point, it may be in the Bills interest to concentrate on offense. They need blockers and another receiver, but there IS talent there. The defense will probably suck under any conditions as long as Rex is running it, and he probably has little say on the offensive side, so their best hope to win might be as an offensive juggernaut. The above is surely not my favorite brand of football but with Rex as coach, options and chances are surely limited. If they don't shell out money for Gilmore they're just going to use another top pick to replace him. So which is worse in your view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 So he can't read and watch film? Ahh the whole mental reps thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Just heard he coming for a visit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Just heard he coming for a visit Yep. It is up on the NFL channel. Rex being here is like a recurring nightmare. If they don't shell out money for Gilmore they're just going to use another top pick to replace him. So which is worse in your view? They got Darby in round 2. You don't HAVE to squander first round picks on the secondary. If you think that Gilmore is worth 12 or 13 million per season. I respectfully disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) Any other has-beens from the '09 or '10 jets defense kicking around? Edited February 28, 2016 by over 20 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000639743/article/antonio-cromartie-expected-to-meet-with-bills Not sure why we would be interested unless they plan on getting rid of McKelvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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