Obama's Post Presidency

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 minute ago, The_Dude said:

 

Trump knows enough to know lie loud, lie big, lie often. Eventually the lie drowns out the truth. Trump is such an awful orator that foreigners who are fluent in English have a hard time understanding his meaning. He changes subject without segwaying into a new topic. 

 

However....given a speech prepared for him I have heard him walk away with a good speech every now and then. But he likes to free style most of them and it’s always an absurd mess. 

 

I like Trump’s policies better. But I’ve no respect for the man. I do respect Obama. 

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Based on that statement alone, I would say you are a poor judge of character. 

[The_Dude]

1 minute ago, GG said:

 

The only reason his administration is painted in a favorable light is because there’s very little objectivity about his accomplishments.  Real history will not be kind once we’ve gone through a decade or so, and the varnish of his empty suit fades.

 

The two items that people point to as his great achievements are killing Bin Laden and getting the country out of a recession - both decisions that a 12-yr old would have approved.  Nobody with a proper understanding of economics has been able to explain Obama’s extraordinary policies that pulled the economy out of the recession. 

 

Ok, so when I say ‘history will remember him fondly’ I’m talking 20, 30, 60, 100, 1000 years down the road because most of what conservatives hate the man for won’t stand the test of time. 

 

And no, a 12 year would not have and that’s an ignorant comment. Obama invaded an ally to get Bin Laden on shaky intelligence. I commend him for that bold decision. Can you imagine the conservative reaction had Bin Laden not been there? 

 

I cant stand political pettiness and that’s what the whole country is these days. Double standards everywhere. 

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Based on that statement alone, I would say you are a poor judge of character. 

 

Well, ma’am, the opinions of women have never been of much concern to me. So, just a little dirt on my shoulder is all that is. 

[GG]

Just now, The_Dude said:

 

Ok, so when I say ‘history will remember him fondly’ I’m talking 20, 30, 60, 100, 1000 years down the road because most of what conservatives hate the man for won’t stand the test of time. 

 

And no, a 12 year would not have and that’s an ignorant comment. Obama invaded an ally to get Bin Laden on shaky intelligence. I commend him for that bold decision. Can you imagine the conservative reaction had Bin Laden not been there? 

 

I cant stand political pettiness and that’s what the whole country is these days. Double standards everywhere. 

 

Nobody on the right would have faulted a failed mission in Pakistan, because most on the right don’t consider Pakistan a trusted ally.  Obama would have gotten credit for finally having a back bone to follow through on a threat, unlike anything else in his tenure. 

 

The perfect parallel is Carter’s failed attempt to rescue the hostages.  He wasn’t criticized for the action, but for the emblematic lack of detail and preparedness during an administration that also viewed the military as the enemy.  

 

There’s no double standard.  Obama was and is an empty suit.  

[snafu]

4 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

Well, ma’am, the opinions of women have never been of much concern to me. So, just a little dirt on my shoulder is all that is. 

 

 

That's sarcasm, right?

[3rdnlng]

1 minute ago, snafu said:

 

 

That's sarcasm, right?

No, no it isn't. It's consistent with prior statements.

[The_Dude]

19 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

 

That's sarcasm, right?

 

I believe in being a constant gentleman. Women are not to be objectified. I despise sexual harassment and have zero toleration for it. 

 

But i paint in broad strokes because it’s easier. 

 

I identify with what Jack Nocholson said in “As Good As It Gets,” when asked how he writes women so well. “I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability.” All my life experience tells me that’s pretty much accurate. There are exceptions to the rule, but that’s pretty accurate. 

[snafu]

4 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

I believe in being a constant gentleman. Women are not to be objectified. I despise sexual harassment and have zero toleration for it. 

 

But i paint in broad strokes because it’s easier. 

 

I identify with what Jack Nocholson said in “As Good As It Gets,” when asked how he writes women so well. “I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability.” All my life experience tells me that’s pretty much accurate. There are exceptions to the rule, but that’s pretty accurate. 

 

So it wasn't sarcasm.  Got it.

[The_Dude]

32 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Nobody on the right would have faulted a failed mission in Pakistan, because most on the right don’t consider Pakistan a trusted ally.  Obama would have gotten credit for finally having a back bone to follow through on a threat, unlike anything else in his tenure.

 

I strongly disagree. I strongly disagree. I believe most conservatives would have stated ‘look at this inexperienced schmuck.’ 

6 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

So it wasn't sarcasm.  Got it.

 

...not even a little. 

[njbuff]

I won’t condemn Obama because he’s a former President who likes ? 

 

There are hundreds more reasons to condemn him.

Edited September 8, 2018 by njbuff

[IDBillzFan]

45 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

Trump knows enough to know lie loud, lie big, lie often.

 

The only difference here  between Trump and Obama is Obama wasn't loud.

 

He will be remembered, however, as a failure. Between Obamacare, Syria, and causing the loss of the largest number of Democratic seats at literally every single level of gpvernment in this country, his best bet right now is to take a page from GWB and shut his piehole.

 

He could have been the single greatest president of all time. Instead, he chose selfish pettiness, not the interests of the country, and not even the interests of the black community that put him in office.

[3rdnlng]

5 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

I strongly disagree. I strongly disagree. I believe most conservatives would have stated ‘look at this inexperienced schmuck.’ 

 

...not even a little. 

Normally I'd ridicule you for your misogyny, but why should I take that pleasure away from Buffalo_Gal who is more than capable of eviscerating you.

 

Now Tackleberry,  why would you defend Obama when he stripped the military of its ability to perform like it should and systematically got rid of its officers that weren't in his back pocket?

 

https://rense.com/general96/listof.html

[The_Dude]

1 minute ago, LABillzFan said:

 

The only difference here  between Trump and Obama is Obama wasn't loud.

 

He will be remembered, however, as a failure. Between Obamacare, Syria, and causing the loss of the largest number of Democratic seats at literally every single level of gpvernment in this country, his best bet right now is to take a page from GWB and shut his piehole.

 

He could have been the single greatest president of all time. Instead, he chose selfish pettiness, not the interests of the country, and not even the interests of the black community that put him in office.

 

W.! Awful president. Good guy though. I like W. Best years of my life. 

 

So look, I think the Tea Party was in response to white people taking the country back. I think a lot of it was racism. 

 

I consider myself one of the last real republicans and I despise racism. 

 

What happened is after 2008 the Republican Party split. John McCain and the real republicans went one way, Sarah Palin and the crazies went another. Moderate republicans like myself got overrun by the crazies. 

 

We could have a standup guy like Rubio — but we were overrun by the Trumpers. Now, I just hope there will be a Republican Party left to salvage when Trump is mercifully done. 

2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Normally I'd ridicule you for your misogyny, but why should I take that pleasure away from Buffalo_Gal who is more than capable of eviscerating you.

 

Now Tackleberry,  why would you defend Obama when he stripped the military of its ability to perform like it should and systematically got rid of its officers that weren't in his back pocket?

 

https://rense.com/general96/listof.html

 

Ah, she can try I guess. I mean if she wants to call me a jerk face she can. 

 

Im not going to defend Obama’s actions on that. 

[IDBillzFan]

Just now, The_Dude said:

 

W.! Awful president. Good guy though. I like W. Best years of my life. 

 

So look, I think the Tea Party was in response to white people taking the country back. I think a lot of it was racism. 

 

I consider myself one of the last real republicans and I despise racism. 

 

What happened is after 2008 the Republican Party split. John McCain and the real republicans went one way, Sarah Palin and the crazies went another. Moderate republicans like myself got overrun by the crazies. 

 

We could have a standup guy like Rubio — but we were overrun by the Trumpers. Now, I just hope there will be a Republican Party left to salvage when Trump is mercifully done. 

 

 

Calling conservatives crazy racists while calling McCain "a real Republican."

 

Yeah. Okay. I should have know better than to engage with a "real Republican" like yourself. 

 

Carry on.

 

 

 

 

[3rdnlng]

3 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

W.! Awful president. Good guy though. I like W. Best years of my life. 

 

So look, I think the Tea Party was in response to white people taking the country back. I think a lot of it was racism. 

 

I consider myself one of the last real republicans and I despise racism. 

 

What happened is after 2008 the Republican Party split. John McCain and the real republicans went one way, Sarah Palin and the crazies went another. Moderate republicans like myself got overrun by the crazies. 

 

We could have a standup guy like Rubio — but we were overrun by the Trumpers. Now, I just hope there will be a Republican Party left to salvage when Trump is mercifully done. 

 

Ah, she can try I guess. I mean if she wants to call me a jerk face she can. 

 

Im not going to defend Obama’s actions on that. 

You can't defend Obama's actions on that because they were indefensible. Your statement that the Tea Parties were about racism is ignorant of the facts and your other words clearly show that you are nothing but a RINO at best. The Tea Parties were about taxes and adherence to the Constitution. Educate yourself.

[The_Dude]

Just now, 3rdnlng said:

You can't defend Obama's actions on that because they were indefensible. Your statement that the Tea Parties were about racism is ignorant of the facts and your other words clearly show that you are nothing but a RINO at best. The Tea Parties were about taxes and adherence to the Constitution. Educate yourself.

 

I disagree on that. I agree with Colin Powell when he stated that there’s a dark vein of intolerance in the GOP. 

 

Also, as a conservative I must say we do a crap job of reaching out to blacks. 

And the TEA party was nothing more than a club for village idiots. And their rallying cry was racism and they veiled it by saying they were concerned about the socialist in the White House. If obama was a socialist he wasn’t a successful one. 

[3rdnlng]

Just now, The_Dude said:

 

I disagree on that. I agree with Colin Powell when he stated that there’s a dark vein of intolerance in the GOP. 

 

Also, as a conservative I must say we do a crap job of reaching out to blacks. 

Don't call yourself a conservative. Your beliefs belie that. As far as reaching out to blacks the man that you despise so much has been doing exactly that. Look at his poll numbers amongst blacks.

[IDBillzFan]

2 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

Also, as a conservative I must say we do a crap job of reaching out to blacks. 

 

You're straight up trolling. There is no self-described conservative who would EVER call John McCain a real Republican, let alone try to paint conservatives at racist.

 

Great trolling, though.

[3rdnlng]

6 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

I disagree on that. I agree with Colin Powell when he stated that there’s a dark vein of intolerance in the GOP. 

 

Also, as a conservative I must say we do a crap job of reaching out to blacks. 

And the TEA party was nothing more than a club for village idiots. And their rallying cry was racism and they veiled it by saying they were concerned about the socialist in the White House. If obama was a socialist he wasn’t a successful one. 

You are ill informed. It would appear as if you have received your talking points from Huff Post.

[The_Dude]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

It would appear as if you have received your talking points from Huff Post.

 

Sir, that’s just crossing the line. That’s below the belt. 

4 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

You're straight up trolling. There is no self-described conservative who would EVER call John McCain a real Republican, let alone try to paint conservatives at racist.

 

Great trolling, though.

 

I think he was. I’m not trolling. Just telling you what I believe. Don’t like it — that’s fine. 

[snafu]

57 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

I believe in being a constant gentleman. Women are not to be objectified. I despise sexual harassment and have zero toleration for it. 

 

But i paint in broad strokes because it’s easier. 

 

I identify with what Jack Nocholson said in “As Good As It Gets,” when asked how he writes women so well. “I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability.” All my life experience tells me that’s pretty much accurate. There are exceptions to the rule, but that’s pretty accurate. 

 

52 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

So it wasn't sarcasm.  Got it.

 

45 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

 

...not even a little. 

 

How very Muslim of you ? .