Tiberius Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 Obama ran a corruption free administration. Trump's crew is so corrupt, going to jail, stealing everything in reach and filling the swamp. Rick Gates waves and says thanks for the millions! 1
boyst Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 Just say it 6 more times and it'll make it true.
B-Man Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 Obama readies fall campaign push, but some Democrats say no thanks http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/404703-obama-readies-fall-campaign-push-but-some-dems-say-no-thanks
B-Man Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 Quote CBS News ✔@CBSNews U.S. "paid a price" for not enforcing then-President Obama's red line in Syria, former Secretary of State John Kerry says https://cbsn.ws/2NFwDkj 11:24 AM - Sep 2, 2018 While this is not breaking news to anyone, it is noteworthy that Kerry says he could not persuade Obama: “I put several ideas on the table. The president was not persuaded by my argument. I believed that we had several options we could have done at very low risk to be able to make it clear to Assad that when we had a ceasefire and when he said he was going to live by it, he had to live by it. And I thought we should have done that,” Kerry said. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 I wonder how many of the ideas Kerry put forth (allegedly) came from his Iranian backers? 2
DC Tom Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, B-Man said: While this is not breaking news to anyone, it is noteworthy that Kerry says he could not persuade Obama: “I put several ideas on the table. The president was not persuaded by my argument. I believed that we had several options we could have done at very low risk to be able to make it clear to Assad that when we had a ceasefire and when he said he was going to live by it, he had to live by it. And I thought we should have done that,” Kerry said. Given Kerry's record, I'm sure he both agreed and disagreed with Obama at some point. 1
snafu Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 To quote another poster: Any updates on this?
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 I wonder how the thin-skinned one will react?"Sorry I watched it but I fell asleep. I found he’s very good, very good for sleeping." 1
B-Man Posted September 7, 2018 Posted September 7, 2018 Self awareness level 0 Barack Obama said a lot of ridiculous stuff today. (see the Trump Foreign Policy thread).............This might be the most ridiculous: Quote Charlie Spiering ✔@charliespiering “We don’t need a messiah,” Obama says 1:01 PM - Sep 7, 2018 .Sure, Mr. “We Are The Ones We’ve Been Waiting For.” ....................Whatever you say, buddy.
njbuff Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 Apparently Obama has TDS too. Instead of lecturing us on how bad Trump is, he should go to his hometown of Chicago and see what is happening there. Talk about hypocrisy.
keepthefaith Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, njbuff said: Apparently Obama has TDS too. Instead of lecturing us on how bad Trump is, he should go to his hometown of Chicago and see what is happening there. Talk about hypocrisy. He chose the largest safezone in the state. The largest University.
The_Dude Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 Say what ya want about Obama, but the man can give a speech. He’s a modern day Cicero.
outsidethebox Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Say what ya want about Obama, but the man can give a speech. He’s a modern day Cicero. Good thing he's not Pinocchio
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Say what ya want about Obama, but the man can give a speech. He’s a modern day Cicero. I'm with Trump - Obama's speechifying puts me to sleep. He doesn't even read his teleprompter as well as the people on the nightly news.
GG Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, The_Dude said: Say what ya want about Obama, but the man can give a speech. He’s a modern day Cicero. And this is part of the reason that his presidency was a failure. The actions never caught up to the rhetoric. The epitome of an empty suit.
The_Dude Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I'm with Trump - Obama's speechifying puts me to sleep. He doesn't even read his teleprompter as well as the people on the nightly news. Listening to Trump talk is like watching a squirrel cross the road. You never know which way he’s going, and you won’t lose any sleep if he gets run over. 9 minutes ago, GG said: And this is part of the reason that his presidency was a failure. The actions never caught up to the rhetoric. The epitome of an empty suit. His presidency will NOT be remembered as a failure. His administration undeniably pulled us out of the recession. In fact, I won’t argue it if you want to challenge me on it because I find any counter arguments to be ridiculous. Now, I’m not a fan of his foreign policy. I’m not a fan of his gayification of the military. Lots of things I don’t like about the man. But I believe history will remember Obama in a positive light. Edited September 8, 2018 by The_Dude 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 1 minute ago, The_Dude said: Listening to Trump talk is like watching a squirrel cross the road. You never know which way he’s going, and you won’t lose any sleep if he gets run over. Trump generally speaks marketing. Small sound bites, repeated for maximum impression and impact. Used to drive me crazy (and I have worked with a ton of PR and marketers, and know what he is doing - and it still drove me nuts.) His speeches this year, however, have gotten smoother. He does continue to repeat lines that get positive reactions (again, this is marketing 101), but the basic speech delivery when not to a rally is much smoother.
GG Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Listening to Trump talk is like watching a squirrel cross the road. You never know which way he’s going, and you won’t lose any sleep if he gets run over. His presidency will NOT be remembered as a failure. His administration undeniably pulled us out of the recession. In fact, I won’t argue it if you want to challenge me on it because I find any counter arguments to be ridiculous. Now, I’m not a fan of his foreign policy. I’m not a fan of his gayification of the military. Lots of things I don’t like about the man. But I believe history will remember Obama in a positive light. The only reason his administration is painted in a favorable light is because there’s very little objectivity about his accomplishments. Real history will not be kind once we’ve gone through a decade or so, and the varnish of his empty suit fades. The two items that people point to as his great achievements are killing Bin Laden and getting the country out of a recession - both decisions that a 12-yr old would have approved. Nobody with a proper understanding of economics has been able to explain Obama’s extraordinary policies that pulled the economy out of the recession.
The_Dude Posted September 8, 2018 Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Trump generally speaks marketing. Small sound bites, repeated for maximum impression and impact. Used to drive me crazy (and I have worked with a ton of PR and marketers, and know what he is doing - and it still drove me nuts.) His speeches this year, however, have gotten smoother. He does continue to repeat lines that get positive reactions (again, this is marketing 101), but the basic speech delivery when not to a rally is much smoother. Trump knows enough to know lie loud, lie big, lie often. Eventually the lie drowns out the truth. Trump is such an awful orator that foreigners who are fluent in English have a hard time understanding his meaning. He changes subject without segwaying into a new topic. However....given a speech prepared for him I have heard him walk away with a good speech every now and then. But he likes to free style most of them and it’s always an absurd mess. I like Trump’s policies better. But I’ve no respect for the man. I do respect Obama.
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