H2o Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 I know people are going to say no one wants him, but teams need pass rushers and he was an effective one for us in a 4-3 defense up until this past season. He's only 31 and the $ would be manageable for a team taking him on via trade because it knocks his cap number down to $11,500,000. Like I said, pass rushers are at a premium and his salary wouldn't be that bad for another team with the need to go along with the space. The team that takes him on would also be able to cut ties whenever they wanted without incurring a penalty themselves. Maybe Mario and our 1st to move up in the 1st? Just a thought.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Everyone knows we are going to cut him so I doubt we would get much for him Plus no one would want to take on that kind of salary CBF
YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) A 4-3 team with a ton of cap space who has a hard time attracting FAs (like Jax) may make a trade for him and then try to do an extension. However, it would need to be well before draft day. Bills will want his cap space by 3/9 or 3/16 at the latest. He will be traded (unlikely) or cut before then. They won't hang on to his salary all the way until the draft. Edited February 18, 2016 by YoloinOhio
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 I doubt it as was stated teams know we plan to cut him. The only incentive is it gives whomever were to trade for him exclusive rights to him, but still doubt you'd get much if anything. 2nd potential issue, I'm no salary cap expert, but I'd be surprised if there aren't more salary cap hits to the Bill's if he's still on the roster on the beginning of the NFL calendar year which occurs in early March. Typically there are as that is why most players are cut before then. In addition we'd then have to cut $19mil worth of other players to get under the salary cap on day 1 one the NFL calendar. that's was the biggest reason I've heard why we need to cut him as without cutting him, would be hard pressed to re-sign Glenn or Richie or anyone else.
3rdand12 Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 A 4-3 team with a ton of cap space who has a hard time attracting FAs (like Jax) may make a trade for him and then try to do an extension. However, it would need to be well before draft day. Bills will want his cap space by 3/9 or 3/16 at the latest. He will be traded (unlikely) or cut before then. They won't hang on to his salary all the way until the draft. This. ps what if we offer up the locker room fridge as an incentive in the trade negotiations ?
KollegeStudnet Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 The only way he gets traded is if the team that wants him wants him to not hit FA when cut
aristocrat Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 He'd have to agree to some kind of long term deal. I'd think he's probably gonna do a 1 year deal to show people he can get back to form.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 I would trade him for a 7th just so we wouldnt be hit with any dead cap money like we would if we released him CBF
BarleyNY Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) Zero chance. He's due a $2.5M roster bonus well before the draft. I don't see a date for it, but it's usually in March right after the start of the league year. Plus he's got a $500k workout bonus that might or might not be in play pre-draft. Then you have the issue of not having the cap space his release would free up until draft day - which means basically all of the free agents it could be spent on are gone. Also the odds that any potential trade partner would actually have enough cap space to acquire him on draft day is pretty slim. He will be off the team no later than the day his roster bonus is due. Incidentally, if the Bills don't pay that roster bonus he becomes a free agent immediately upon them missing the payment date. I would trade him for a 7th just so we wouldnt be hit with any dead cap money like we would if we released him CBF That only applies to any future guaranteed money (and even in those cases there are sometimes offsets). Mario has nothing guaranteed so the dead money and cap hit is exactly the same whether he's traded or released. Edited February 18, 2016 by BarleyNY
thebandit27 Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 They can't carry his cap number through to the draft; he'll be gone before March 9th. Zero chance. He's due a $2.5M roster bonus well before the draft. I don't see a date for it, but it's usually in March right after the start of the league year. Plus he's got a $500k workout bonus that might or might not be in play pre-draft. Then you have the issue of not having the cap space his release would free up until draft day - which means basically all of the free agents it could be spent on are gone. Also the odds that any potential trade partner would actually have enough cap space to acquire him on draft day is pretty slim. He will be off the team no later than the day his roster bonus is due. Incidentally, if the Bills don't pay that roster bonus he becomes a free agent immediately upon them missing the payment date.That only applies to any future guaranteed money (and even in those cases there are sometimes offsets). Mario has nothing guaranteed so the dead money and cap hit is exactly the same whether he's traded or released. Spotrac says his 2016 roster bonus is due March 13th: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/mario-williams/
John from Riverside Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 I cant see this happening.... None of it is in the bills favor at all - Everyone knows we are releasing him - We need the cap space sooner so we can take care of our own business - Mario comes with a very high contract
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Zero chance. He's due a $2.5M roster bonus well before the draft. I don't see a date for it, but it's usually in March right after the start of the league year. Plus he's got a $500k workout bonus that might or might not be in play pre-draft. Then you have the issue of not having the cap space his release would free up until draft day - which means basically all of the free agents it could be spent on are gone. Also the odds that any potential trade partner would actually have enough cap space to acquire him on draft day is pretty slim. He will be off the team no later than the day his roster bonus is due. Incidentally, if the Bills don't pay that roster bonus he becomes a free agent immediately upon them missing the payment date. That only applies to any future guaranteed money (and even in those cases there are sometimes offsets). Mario has nothing guaranteed so the dead money and cap hit is exactly the same whether he's traded or released. Crap CBF
fansince88 Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Telling you all right now Doug is due to go rogue real soon.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 I know people are going to say no one wants him, but teams need pass rushers and he was an effective one for us in a 4-3 defense up until this past season. He's only 31 and the $ would be manageable for a team taking him on via trade because it knocks his cap number down to $11,500,000. Like I said, pass rushers are at a premium and his salary wouldn't be that bad for another team with the need to go along with the space. The team that takes him on would also be able to cut ties whenever they wanted without incurring a penalty themselves. Maybe Mario and our 1st to move up in the 1st? Just a thought. hopefully but doubt it, getting a first would be sweet.
EmotionallyUnstable Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 They need the cap room for for free agency, which is before the draft. Plus, no one wants to absorb that contract. They'll wait till he hits the FA market. Though this would be best case scenario, idt he makes it through February.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 If the deal wasn't so terrible... maybe? The only way i see it, is if someone wanted him so badly that they didn't want to bid for his services. After this past year, no one could possibly want him that badly. So i don't see it.
K D Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 A 31 yr old who has lost a step? He will be lucky to get half his salary in FA. Maybe he should have tried and not phone it in
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