YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) I do too. Hurricanes, mosquitoes, tornadoes, global warming (saw one global warming map where Florida disappears), etc. I want all in South Florida.Florida disappears?! Watch out, Marrone! Edited February 18, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) What NFL and MLB teams share new stadiums anymore? Oakland comes to mind (an old stadium) I don't know of others. When stadium feasibility studies come and go, most of them pan "single team facilities" as unsustainable. I shouldn't have narrowed on MLB. Edited February 18, 2016 by boater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Florida disappears?! Watch out, Marrone! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Bigger than Bass Pro.. I suggest. "Football only" downtown stadiums are failing economically for the tax payers paying their bonds. I dream of the day where a failed downtown stadium adds property tax to my mortgage [sarcasm]. If you can have a NFL team and a MLB team in the stadium, it will succeed financially. Obviously, that's not happening here. Where has that succeeded financially? I thought we couldn't get one because the NHL knows we're they're top US market in terms of TV ratings, etc..............So, they keep going to the lower markets to pump them up. Huh? I can't find anything that puts them in the top 5. In fact, Pittsburgh dropped in viewership by 13% in the 14-15 season and STILL were the top viewer market---by far. That same season, the Sabres dropped 24% in average ratings compared to the previous season--tied for the second highest drop in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 http://www.wgr550.com/Sabres-top-NHL-TV-ratings/22475725 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 http://www.wgr550.com/Sabres-top-NHL-TV-ratings/22475725 The season hasn't ended yet. Those were two full season ratings comparisons I posted. The poster was saying that in the past the NHL has passed over Buffalo because they were the top local market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I think the general thought is /was valid. The NHL would more often try to put the ASG in non-traditional, upcoming/struggling markets to create buzz where it otherwise wasnt. They don't really have anything to gain putting it in Buffalo as we are relatively maxed-out. The "outdoor games" have become more of the bone to throw to 'traditional' markets. Not only that, the ASG has become a large scale entertainment event in and around the host city. Nashville had various events staged throughout the city, which has many attractions, is "hip", and the weather isn't likely to be 10 degrees (although they had that winter storm a week prior). The next one has been scheduled for Los Angeles. Its not always the rule, but the league prefers the event where it is beneficial. Ottawa recently had one, and Montreal had one for their anniversary in (09?)... but other than that it has remained pretty consistently teams that didnt really exist prior to the 90s (Ottawa wasnt either but they are a different case). Los Angeles will now be hosting it for the 3rd time since Buffalo has. I do think that Pegula has been asking, and it may be a matter of time. They will probably get some outdoor games, maybe as a tradoff. the 50th anniversary may be a possibility too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Exactly, May Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Where has that succeeded financially? Touche. I'm not aware of a urban palace stadium succeeding financially. Though, some urban planners suggest they do. Buffalo context: take 8 home games, add a few half-attended preseason games, and at best 3 concerts a year--the only way the bonds are paid on the palace stadium is through taxpayer subsidy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) http://www.startribune.com/Vikings-scramble-for-tailgating-space-around-downtown-stadium/368859111To bad for Vikings fans. This could happen to Bills fans if there is a downtown stadium. Watch and Learn. Edited February 19, 2016 by Hammered a Lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 http://www.startribune.com/Vikings-scramble-for-tailgating-space-around-downtown-stadium/368859111To bad for Vikings fans. This could happen to Bills fans if there is a downtown stadium. Watch and Learn. Those pics are perfect example for the "cold and sterile" most of us fear in a downtown stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Those pics are perfect example for the "cold and sterile" most of us fear in a downtown stadium. How is that design with all the glass on the exterior "cold and sterile"? https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=704&q=vikings+new+stadium&oq=vikings+&gs_l=img.1.1.0l10.892.3037.0.4539.8.8.0.0.0.0.186.798.1j5.6.0..2..0...1.1.64.img..2.6.796.j4X8RVmKpVg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 How is that design with all the glass on the exterior "cold and sterile"? https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=704&q=vikings+new+stadium&oq=vikings+&gs_l=img.1.1.0l10.892.3037.0.4539.8.8.0.0.0.0.186.798.1j5.6.0..2..0...1.1.64.img..2.6.796.j4X8RVmKpVg Whoops the Roof is leaking to the tune of $4 million in repairs. I have never heard of an open air stadium roof leaking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Whoops the Roof is leaking to the tune of $4 million in repairs. I have never heard of an open air stadium roof leaking! Open air stadium roofs leak every time there's any precipitation whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Those pics are perfect example for the "cold and sterile" most of us fear in a downtown stadium. As opposed to the unique "character" of the Ralph? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Whoops the Roof is leaking to the tune of $4 million in repairs. I have never heard of an open air stadium roof leaking! what does that have to do with my post? Bills can't get a new stadium because they found a problem on Vikings? Edited February 19, 2016 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 Whoops the Roof is leaking to the tune of $4 million in repairs. I have never heard of an open air stadium roof leaking! reading that article just makes me glad we arent there, and hope we never get there! status quo is fine.. it works.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 http://www.startribune.com/Vikings-scramble-for-tailgating-space-around-downtown-stadium/368859111To bad for Vikings fans. This could happen to Bills fans if there is a downtown stadium. Watch and Learn. Sounds like perfect for a "Tailgating by Paup 1995MVP" theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) As opposed to the unique "character" of the Ralph? LolCold and colder. As for tailgating downtown there are more spaces than in Minny down Seneca and South Park, not to mention Ganson. Will they be as close as Hammer's? No but the long walk will help sober you up. The question isn't space, it's will the city legislate against it. Edited February 20, 2016 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Cold and colder. As for tailgating downtown there are more spaces than in Minny down Seneca and South Park, not to mention Ganson. Will they be as close as Hammer's? No but the long walk will help sober you up. The question isn't space, it's will the city legislate against it. Some cities seem to prefer to that tailgating occur in bars and restaurants since they usually impose a supplemental sales tax in stadium district to help repay contribution to stadium or infrastructure costs. We did our tailgate for one of the Bills Ravens games in a bar due to difficulty getting tailgate space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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