Mark Vader Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Can't agree with Beebe. He didn't have the stats of the other receivers of his era because he was a complimentary piece. He played his role well and contributed when called upon. Agreed. Beebe was a #3 WR and he was good at it. He is not overrated Beebe was really not that great of a receiver. Fast but never very reliable. He had a couple of big moments, like the author states. Lofton contributed more but often is overlooked by many. Lofton was the perfect compliment to Reed. Lofton is in the Hall of Fame. I highly doubt there are that many people that overlook him. Especially Bills fans.
vincec Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Overrated: Darryl Talley. Good LB but not all that. Tough not to look good playing next to Bruce Smith. Could have used a tackle or two from the Bills "heart and soul" in the loss to the Giants in XXV- 0 tackles. Underrated: Pat Williams. No one appreciated him until he was gone.
justnzane Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Overrated: Henry Jones, had a good 2nd season from an INT standpoint, largely because the other teams targeted him often as the weaker link of the secondary, and was past his prime relatively early. Underrated: Jim Ritcher, took him 12 seasons before he got his first trip to Hawaii. He had to suffer through some horrible teams of the 80's to get to the bright side of the Super Bowl run.
Mr. WEO Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 I agree with Pat Williams. Over rated? Jeez, that's a long list in these parts: just recently...Parrish, Spiller....Kiko (obviously), and (dare I say it?) Aaron Williams is creeping into that Kiko ozone.
truth on hold Posted February 17, 2016 Author Posted February 17, 2016 If Smerlas were on a consistent winner he'd likely be a hall of famer. His pro bowl and all NFL awards came in his 2nd 3rd year usually takes a few years to get noticed for those types of things but he was that dominating. His level of play was still tremendous when the Bills as a team stunk and he went unnoticed by most. When the Bills rebounded at the end of his career here he STILL was playing well getting not only a pro bowl invite but was all conference in 1988 AND 1989. I was suprised to see Tasker on someones over rated list- to me he's STILL underated unless you saw him play it's hard to explain how great he was. The downing of the football, the tackles usually first down there and never missing, the fumbles recoveries the punt blocks and he can return punts (4th in the league 1995 and kickoffs 2nd in league 1985) the 7 probowls, the 7 years all NFL. overrated- Nate Clements, Josh Reed, Shane Conlan, underated- John Holecek, Eric Moulds Wasn't smerlas a little light to dominate as a 3-4 NT?
Yoho Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Underated- Tony Greene- my favorite Bills safety of all time Runner-UP - Marlin Briscoe Overrated- Kiko Alonzo Underated- Tony Greene- my favorite Bills safety of all time Runner-UP - Marlin Briscoe Overrated- Kiko Alonzo in case you think the Bills are not noticed now...... During his first season as the starting FS, Greene went on to intercept nine passes, helping lead a resurgent Bills defense that was a major reason the team returned to the playoffs for the first time since 1966. The Bills went 6-2 in games where Greene had an interception that season, which was a good indicator of how important his production was. He was named a First-Team All-Pro for the season, but miraculously didn't earn a Pro Bowl invite. Greene backed up his monster season in 1974 with six interceptions the following year and five in 1976. He finally earned a Pro Bowl selection in 1977 after he once again intercepted nine passes. The safety would go on to play two more solid seasons for the Bills before retiring. He finished with 37 career interceptions, which is still second on the Bills all-time list.
norton20 Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Under rated: George Saimes (Not under rated in the traditional sense but only because he was a great great player not just very good and is rarely, if ever, mentioned as such) Bobby Chandler, Steve Christie, Antoine Winfield Over rated: many who were over drafted. Not so many over rated
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Under rated: George Saimes (Not under rated in the traditional sense but only because he was a great great player not just very good and is rarely, if ever, mentioned as such) Bobby Chandler, Steve Christie, Antoine Winfield Over rated: many who were over drafted. Not so many over rated Where does this come from? George Saimes was considered an extremely talented and valuable player during his tenure with the Bills.
bbb Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Overrated: Darryl Talley. Good LB but not all that. Tough not to look good playing next to Bruce Smith. Could have used a tackle or two from the Bills "heart and soul" in the loss to the Giants in XXV- 0 tackles. Underrated: Pat Williams. No one appreciated him until he was gone. I did. I was so pissed when Donahoe let him walk. Where does this come from? George Saimes was considered an extremely talented and valuable player during his tenure with the Bills. I don't think somebody who was voted onto the First Team All Time AFL: team could be considered underrated. That's as high an honor as somebody who played in AFL could ever get.
PlayoffsPlease Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Overrated : Michael Jasper Underrated : Michael Jasper
Andrew Son Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Overrated: Jason Peters CBF No way. HOF talent IMO
Andrew Son Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 lol CBF You must not have watched him much then, his movement was a thing of beauty. Amazing. Except for that last year where he held out and didn't care...
Dragonborn10 Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Speaking of overrated. Don't you know the rules of Two Bills Drive. One can never speak negatively of Marv Levy. He was the greatest manager of egos --- right up until the four most important games in the franchise's history Overrated: Jason Peters CBF Seriously? He is a borderline HOF candidate. If they had paid him he would be a sure ring of honor player. He would be on a very short list of undrafted HOF players.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Maybe Im just bitter towards Peters lol Ok how about this.. Peerless Price CBF
Uncle Joe Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Underrated Daryle Lamonica - because the Bills brass shuffled him off to Oakland Overrated JP Losman & EJ Manuel - because they were drafted in the 1st round and given the keys to the car.
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 The winner going away for most overrated Bill: Walt Patulski was the first overall pick of the 1972 draft after being an All-American and Lombardi Trophy winning defensive end at Notre Dame. He played a few mediocre seasons with the Bills. Nobody missed him when he departed. We've had a lot of other first round draft picks who were busts (Mike Williams and J.P. Losman, for instance). But no one who went bust carried more expectations coming in than Patulski.
K-9 Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Nice to see some of the old timers getting mentioned around here. So easy to forget them when they played on poor teams. Here's an underrated player that played on our best teams: John Davis. He should have been the fifth OLman from those teams to be a Pro Bowler. GO BILLS!!!
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