aristocrat Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 The nfl should be pretty happy with this incident. Normally when you hear of players in trouble you have...guns, drugs, duis, women beating, and in this one you have none of that.
Tenhigh Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 @SalSports Report from @CSNPhilly: Philly DA "Pushing back" on arrest warrant for McCoy: http://www.wgr550.com/Report-Philly-DA-pushing-back-on-arrest-warrant-fo/22482370 Some of those comments are painful.
3rdand12 Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 It certainly explains the delay and the exasperation of the police chief and FOP prez. not to get ahead of these things, anyone think a defamation suit is in the works?
Doc Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Is that what happened, the hospital reported it? I thought the officers filed a complaint on Monday am. I could be wrong but don't think a hospital is required to report the sort of injuries the officers suffered. Gunshot or knife wounds yes. I think Fingon meant they waited until after visiting the hospital to report it.
Captain_Quint Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 So i guess with the new info, we can determine that it does matter that the cops didnt call 911. And it does matter WHY they didnt. Im guessing one of them had their weapon on them or they were hammered. Either one doesnt look good.
Doc Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 The nfl should be pretty happy with this incident. Normally when you hear of players in trouble you have...guns, drugs, duis, women beating, and in this one you have none of that. Well, it's cop beating. So there's Rog's in.
3rdand12 Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 The nfl should be pretty happy with this incident. Normally when you hear of players in trouble you have...guns, drugs, duis, women beating, and in this one you have none of that. we do not know that these things were not occurring. we just have a blurry video. So i guess with the new info, we can determine that it does matter that the cops didnt call 911. And it does matter WHY they didnt. Im guessing one of them had their weapon on them or they were hammered. Either one doesnt look good. of course it mattered Well, it's cop beating. So there's Rog's in. where is our resident Mr Goodell when we need him btw?
aristocrat Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Well, it's cop beating. So there's Rog's in. off duty not on duty. citizens.
Heitz Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 So i guess with the new info, we can determine that it does matter that the cops didnt call 911. And it does matter WHY they didnt. Im guessing one of them had their weapon on them or they were hammered. Either one doesnt look good. I love when actual news quotes come out that directly contradict beliefs that some TBD members hold as gospel. Note to self, don't let TBD represent me in any legal matters... Also, would think people in Philly would be over this endless investigation - like the Philly PD doesn't h ave anything better to spend it's time and money on!
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Darn you, 26! I posted the same thing just a split second after you. Nice job. And here was an interesting excerpt: I should just stop posting. You beat me to that excerpt, too. In-ter-est-ing if true. I think Fingon meant they waited until after visiting the hospital to report it. I could be fuzzy on the timeline, but I thought they waited about 30 hrs: -incident 2:45 am Sunday -drove to hospital, one officer probably released from hospital early hours, 7-9 am, other officer ?admitted for observation and further tests? -filed complaint Monday am I love when actual news quotes come out that directly contradict beliefs that some TBD members hold as gospel. Note to self, don't let TBD represent me in any legal matters... Also, would think people in Philly would be over this endless investigation - like the Philly PD doesn't h ave anything better to spend it's time and money on! Haha, well, it depends which TBDians you choose to represent you in any legal matters, dunnit? I'd like to retain Mickey and GoKikoGo.
Wayne Cubed Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 I should just stop posting. You beat me to that excerpt, too. In-ter-est-ing if true. I could be fuzzy on the timeline, but I thought they waited about 30 hrs: -incident 2:45 am Sunday -drove to hospital, one officer probably released from hospital early hours, 7-9 am, other officer ?admitted for observation and further tests? -filed complaint Monday am Haha, well, it depends which TBDians you choose to represent you in any legal matters, dunnit? I'd like to retain Mickey and GoKikoGo. What about the 3rd officer, didn't he wait until Tuesday?
3rdand12 Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 off duty not on duty. citizens. no difference. we have gone over this
Doc Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 off duty not on duty. citizens. True. But I don't think Rog wants NFL players hitting anyone. That is, except other NFL players. On the field. Within the rules.
aristocrat Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 True. But I don't think Rog wants NFL players hitting anyone. That is, except other NFL players. On the field. Within the rules. Obviously but I'm just saying Rog is probably relieved this is a bar fight that didn't escalate into a plax buress situation or the pac man jones thing.
Doc Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Obviously but I'm just saying Rog is probably relieved this is a bar fight that didn't escalate into a plax buress situation or the pac man jones thing. Of course. I wonder how many games he gives him?
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 I refuse to read 80+ pages of this mess, but I'll ask one question: do we have the definitive list of precisely what the cops' injuries are? I recall hearing things about orbital fractures and skull fractures, but what has been confirmed (if anything)? Eball! Comin' in here this time o' night, and all judgy to boot! From NYTimes and report of police complaint: Officer #1: treated at a hospital for a laceration to his right eye, a broken nose, broken ribs and a sprained thumb (officer who was on the ground. drove himself to hospital) Officer #2: eight stitches to laceration over left eye. Evaluated for possible skull fracture. Later updated to "orbital fracture". (officer who tried to break up fight, "taken to hospital" apparently by private party, not ambulance) Officer #3: apparently not involved in fight, no injuries reported.
aristocrat Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Of course. I wonder how many games he gives him? I think one game.
Mr. WEO Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Saying "we knew it was a crime but didn't want to report it until later" doesn't wash as an excuse. Neither does "we were embarrassed." Again that's incompetence at best and covering for criminal behavior at worst, neither of which look good for them. And true they wouldn't be the ones on trial, but they'd be on the witness stand being cross-examined. And true they wouldn't be on trial. But they'd be on the witness stand. Since we don't know exactly what the holdup is (if the case was a loser, why would the DA continue to delay?), let me just ask you directly: What is it that you think a jury would hear form the cops that would make a jury ignore the video and medical evidence (which may be all there is, other than the victims' testimony) and conclude the beating that theses 4 guys gave was justified and therefore not illegal? Weapons flashed or drawn? If they delay in the reporting excuses the beating, how exactly do you see it doing that? I'm just interested in you take here, other than the delay itself is suspicious. How does it relate to the charge of assault?
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 True. But I don't think Rog wants NFL players hitting anyone. That is, except other NFL players. On the field. Within the rules. Unless they're a QB.
eball Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Eball! Comin' in here this time o' night, and all judgy to boot! From NYTimes and report of police complaint: Officer #1: treated at a hospital for a laceration to his right eye, a broken nose, broken ribs and a sprained thumb (officer who was on the ground. drove himself to hospital) Officer #2: eight stitches to laceration over left eye. Evaluated for possible skull fracture. Later updated to "orbital fracture". (officer who tried to break up fight, "taken to hospital" apparently by private party, not ambulance) Officer #3: apparently not involved in fight, no injuries reported. Thanks. I've really been trying to stay out of this fray, having a pretty good idea of where it has likely been headed. My first take on these injuries is that they are not nearly as severe as first reported. An orbital fracture can be significant or insignificant. I think that fact is important in evaluating the conduct of the parties post-brawl.
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