JohnC Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Does it matter if he connects? If so, why? And won;t the cop claim the punch connected? And what would McCoy or the NFLPA say in their appeal meeting while that video is rolling that would convince the NFL (or an arbitrator) that the suspension was grossly misapplied and must be reversed? Where Goodell often gets in trouble with his rulings is not that he is out of bounds in punishing players but very often he is wrong in the scale of his punishment, and in the consistency from his prior rulings. For the sake of argument if Roger gave McCoy a one game suspension or a fine the union would be in a weak position to successfully challenge the ruling by the very erratic commissioner. Going back to your original question whether McCoy connected or not being involved in a bar room brawl is enough for him to invoke the off field conduct clause. The same issue of off duty behavior and repercussions will be addressed by the department the officers work for.(That's my opinion.)
Heitz Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 'Well, we've committed 236 fully deputized investigators to the case, with a wide range of expertise -from criminal psychologists and forensic specialists to societal behavior experts. All under the direction of Captain Beerball. We expect to render our decision in the coming weeks..' Chief Scott Samara HA! I also expected a response from Roger Goodell, one of my favorite TBD personalities.
Doc Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Does it matter if he connects? If so, why? And won;t the cop claim the punch connected? And what would McCoy or the NFLPA say in their appeal meeting while that video is rolling that would convince the NFL (or an arbitrator) that the suspension was grossly misapplied and must be reversed? Does it matter if he connects? Really? How do you injure someone if you don't actually make contact him/her? And if it doesn't matter, how does Rog justify suspending him? Because he threw an air punch? Again players aren't even suspended for throwing punches during games.
DC Tom Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 CSI: TBD *still* hasnt cracked this case? How many pages of speculation is it going to take!? Still haven't found your cooler either, after all these years.
Luxy312 Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Does it matter if he connects? Really? How do you injure someone if you don't actually make contact him/her? And if it doesn't matter, how does Rog justify suspending him? Because he threw an air punch? Again players aren't even suspended for throwing punches during games. This in a nutshell. This matter will quietly close with a whimper and McCoy isn't getting any time.
Heitz Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Still haven't found your cooler either, after all these years. CSI: TBD Cold Cases could be a great spin-off show...
DC Tom Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 CSI: TBD Cold Cases could be a great spin-off show... Episode 1: Heitz's cooler. Episode 2: Where does The Dean disappear to? Episode 3: Why is Ed a horrible human being?
3rdand12 Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Does it matter if he connects? Really? How do you injure someone if you don't actually make contact him/her? And if it doesn't matter, how does Rog justify suspending him? Because he threw an air punch? Again players aren't even suspended for throwing punches during games. intent to harm HA! I also expected a response from Roger Goodell, one of my favorite TBD personalities. he has been noticeably absent in this matter. Weighing the evidence against the opinion polls perhaps?
3rdand12 Posted March 12, 2016 Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) intent to, has always been a tool legally Edited March 12, 2016 by 3rdand12
Doc Posted March 12, 2016 Posted March 12, 2016 intent to, has always been a tool legally True. But that would require the DA to charge him with that.
3rdand12 Posted March 12, 2016 Posted March 12, 2016 True. But that would require the DA to charge him with that. of course. just saying the video if entered as evidence shows an intent to injure. i might guess this is just going to fall off the media radar. funny how significant personal and or legal indiscretions disappear when the weapons are off safety. Welcome my friends to the legal Machine.
JohnC Posted March 12, 2016 Posted March 12, 2016 True. But that would require the DA to charge him with that. You are off base in your interpretation of the law/s associated with assault. If you swing at someone you don't have to hit the person in order to qualify it as an assault. If the person you are involved with feels threatened then technically it qualifies as an assault. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/assault I don't believe that McCoy is going to be charged. There is a good chance that no one will be charged in this case.
RobRyanFan Posted March 13, 2016 Posted March 13, 2016 You are off base in your interpretation of the law/s associated with assault. If you swing at someone you don't have to hit the person in order to qualify it as an assault. If the person you are involved with feels threatened then technically it qualifies as an assault. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/assault I don't believe that McCoy is going to be charged. There is a good chance that no one will be charged in this case. After this long, I would be shocked if anyone is charged.
Direhard Fan Posted March 13, 2016 Posted March 13, 2016 Goodie-dell is present. He is still counting his bonus. That is an awful lot of cash to count. He should be done by draft day so he can get booed again. He knows we love him.
Captain_Quint Posted March 14, 2016 Posted March 14, 2016 Goodie-dell is present. He is still counting his bonus. That is an awful lot of cash to count. He should be done by draft day so he can get booed again. He knows we love him. Doubtful that they pay him in cash. Its probably a wire transfer or an ACH.
Mr. WEO Posted March 14, 2016 Posted March 14, 2016 True. But that would require the DA to charge him with that. Charge him with intent to...what? You don't need to "connect" on a punch to be charged with assault.
Doc Posted March 14, 2016 Posted March 14, 2016 (edited) Charge him with intent to...what? You don't need to "connect" on a punch to be charged with assault. In this case, yeah, you would. If anyone were to get charged with assault in this case, it would be the cop. And probably the bottle-wielder. Edited March 14, 2016 by Doc
Fingon Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 It's really starting to look like this entire thing is going to get swept under the rug. We're closing in on the month and a half anniversary of this thing and no ones been charged.
Mr. WEO Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 In this case, yeah, you would. If anyone were to get charged with assault in this case, it would be the cop. And probably the bottle-wielder. Is the law different for this case? How so?
BuffaloBill Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 Episode 1: Heitz's cooler. It's in Pinto Kenny's pinto somewhere Episode 2: Where does The Dean disappear to? North Korea Episode 3: Why is Ed a horrible human being? Unanswerable
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