boater Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) Bucky Gleason should be released. Union writer. Good luck releasing him/her regardless of the quality of the product. Edited February 25, 2016 by boater
YoloinOhio Posted February 25, 2016 Posted February 25, 2016 Union writer. Good luck releasing him regardless of the quality of his product.He is horrible. His Sabres takes are brutal enough, I don't even bother reading what he writes about the Bills.
K D Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 Charged or not charged, that was still a punk move to take a swing at someone from behind like that. He wasn't the instigator or main culprit but I still expect at least a 1 game suspension and deservedly so
YoloinOhio Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 Mayor speaks again http://phillyinfluencer.com/2016/02/watch-mayor-jim-kenney-talk-about-lesean-mccoy-on-breakfast-on-broad-friday-morning/
BillnutinHouston Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 How much cap space will TBN save and can they save more if they release Jerry Sullivan too? As waiver wire acquisitions on the league minimum, cap savings are negligible.
eball Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 Charged or not charged, that was still a punk move to take a swing at someone from behind like that. He wasn't the instigator or main culprit but I still expect at least a 1 game suspension and deservedly so Good lord, I hope you're not in a position in which you have to make important decisions.
K D Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 Good lord, I hope you're not in a position in which you have to make important decisions. Video of him taking a swing at someone from behind that was already getting stomped on. You think that's ok? You stay classy San Diego
thebandit27 Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 Video of him taking a swing at someone from behind that was already getting stomped on. You think that's ok? You stay classy San Diego Wait, you could see what was going on on the ground well enough to know (a) what was going on and (b) that he was swinging at the person that you could identify as "getting stomped"? You have much better eye sight than the rest of us...and for the record, no, running into a melee to throw a punch probably isn't the "classiest" thing to do, but if what he says is true (that his friend was being choked on the ground by a 250-lb man), then I can understand doing that in the heat of the moment. Doesn't mean it's okay, which is why he'll probably still get a seat for a game or two.
Maury Ballstein Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 Charged or not charged, that was still a punk move to take a swing at someone from behind like that. He wasn't the instigator or main culprit but I still expect at least a 1 game suspension and deservedly so Nope
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) Mayor speaks again http://phillyinfluencer.com/2016/02/watch-mayor-jim-kenney-talk-about-lesean-mccoy-on-breakfast-on-broad-friday-morning/ Couldn't listen, not sure I want to...got a Cliff Notes summary? Wait, you could see what was going on on the ground well enough to know (a) what was going on and (b) that he was swinging at the person that you could identify as "getting stomped"? You have much better eye sight than the rest of us...and for the record, no, running into a melee to throw a punch probably isn't the "classiest" thing to do, but if what he says is true (that his friend was being choked on the ground by a 250-lb man), then I can understand doing that in the heat of the moment. Doesn't mean it's okay, which is why he'll probably still get a seat for a game or two. To be truthful, while it's clearly McCoy's face at the end of the video, and while TMZ "chings" and identifies a man they assert is Shady taking a swing, I can't even tell who is the same person as the video progresses to be certain the guy taking a swing belongs to the face of McCoy you see at the end. Can you, for reals? I would have to see the video in slowmo and maybe enhanced, which perhaps was done....It wouldn't surprise me though, if part of what resulted in the apparently definitive conclusion McCoy would not be charged, was McCoy bringing in the clothes he was wearing and witness statements that these were the clothes he was wearing, and there not being a match - "if the boxers don't fit, you must acquit"????? - or otherwise being able to make a convincing argument that he's not the guy swinging down into the pile in that video. Just what was in that red man-purse? I don't know that, and I'm not defending McCoy as not punching down into the pile, just pointing out a lot of the indignation seems to rest around TMZ ID of McCoy as the puncher in that video, which allegedly stems from police ID of McCoy in that video. Since the initial police statements also identified former Chargers RB Curtis Brinkley as the First Brawler. Brinkley says he is innocent and is not identified by the BigTrial story as one of McCoy's party that night. So perhaps the initial ID'ing of McCoy is less reliable than one would like, in the video as well - unless you guys are able to really watch the video and clearly trace back from McCoy's face to the guy who throws the punch. Even if it is, though, there's a long step between throwing a punch at a bar and "felony aggravated assault" or even "simple assault". Expect McCoy and his lawyers and the NFLPA to make a strong case about equitable punishment if McCoy is suspended 1-2 games for simply showing up in a bar video and taking a swing, with no charges filed. Edited February 26, 2016 by Hopeful
John from Riverside Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 Charged or not charged, that was still a punk move to take a swing at someone from behind like that. He wasn't the instigator or main culprit but I still expect at least a 1 game suspension and deservedly so Seems to me there was a lot of punk moves going on.....starting with a off duty gun wearing drunken cop who thought he had the right to take something without asking Followed by choke slamming a person 50 pounds lighter then him Oh wait.....we live in a world where we are actually duelists......we take 10 paces....turn....and fire.....all by the rules
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 As waiver wire acquisitions on the league minimum, cap savings are negligible. Well, I still thing TBN should consider that move to improve their team. If they don't save by cutting them, could they work a trade for them to Cleveland or Detroit?
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) @viccarucci Source close to LeSean McCoy doesn't expect #Bills RB to be charged in nightclub brawl, but that someone w him during the incident could be. Not so fast, Bills fans. DA's office says report McCoy won't be charged "utterly wrong" http://13wham.com/news/top-stories/da-reports-mccoy-wont-be-charged-utterly-wrong Edited February 26, 2016 by Hopeful
K D Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 Wait, you could see what was going on on the ground well enough to know (a) what was going on and (b) that he was swinging at the person that you could identify as "getting stomped"? You have much better eye sight than the rest of us...and for the record, no, running into a melee to throw a punch probably isn't the "classiest" thing to do, but if what he says is true (that his friend was being choked on the ground by a 250-lb man), then I can understand doing that in the heat of the moment. Doesn't mean it's okay, which is why he'll probably still get a seat for a game or two. If his friend is being choked on the ground (doubt it) then pull the guy off. My friend was in a fight in high school and it was a disagreement between 2 parties that they tried to settle like men. That's fine. 1 on 1. But it was the other 4 guys stomping and hitting him from behind that put him in the hospital. So I'm a little biased against punks that have nothing to do with the disagreement flying in and throwing punches from behind. Cowardly thing to do. Have some class. There's no way Shady was in the right no matter the story. I don't believe either side is innocent but people getting stomped and punched from multiple directions is never ok and if you take part in that kind of stuff you deserve a suspension. Hope Karlos is ready week 1!
boater Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) If Shady only slugged, he might come out OK. From what I can tell, the person(s) facing the most trouble are ones who kicked a man laying on the deck, and/or anyone who may have used a bottle as a weapon. That exceeds self-defense bar room brawl. A beer bottle can do some damage. A champagne bottle does damage+. Champagne bottles are super thick glass to contain the pressure. The real person of interest here may not be Shady. Edited February 26, 2016 by boater
thebandit27 Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 If his friend is being choked on the ground (doubt it) then pull the guy off. My friend was in a fight in high school and it was a disagreement between 2 parties that they tried to settle like men. That's fine. 1 on 1. But it was the other 4 guys stomping and hitting him from behind that put him in the hospital. So I'm a little biased against punks that have nothing to do with the disagreement flying in and throwing punches from behind. Cowardly thing to do. Have some class. There's no way Shady was in the right no matter the story. I don't believe either side is innocent but people getting stomped and punched from multiple directions is never ok and if you take part in that kind of stuff you deserve a suspension. Hope Karlos is ready week 1! First off, I'm not sure why you doubt the story that Shady's side is telling when a very, very detailed account of the night was published (and according to the article, corroborated by witnesses). http://www.bigtrial.net/2016/02/why-shady-may-walk.html#more Secondly, this oh-so-similar fight that occurred in school is incredibly different than a drunken bar brawl at 2 a.m. Thirdly, again, how can you possibly assert that there are 4 guys stomping one from that video. it's a half-obscured cell phone video in which you can't see anything. Throw your bias out the window a second and answer this: suppose the account that was published (with the ODPO starting it by threatening McCoy's friend, grabbing him by the throat, and slamming him to the ground) is accurate. Is McCoy a "punk" because he emotionally jumps in to help his friend? Is he a punk when he (according to witnesses) goes outside after the ODPOs were tossed from the club (and he and 3/4 of his crew weren't) to tell the non-combative officer to come get his fellow officer? I think you may need to consider that you don't actually know what happened, and that your (admitted) bias is driving your vitriol on this one.
Ontario51 Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 OK this is good news indeed, maybe he will stay out of trouble. He should not be suspended I assume.
8-8 Forever? Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 Couldn't listen, not sure I want to...got a Cliff Notes summary? To be truthful, while it's clearly McCoy's face at the end of the video, and while TMZ "chings" and identifies a man they assert is Shady taking a swing, I can't even tell who is the same person as the video progresses to be certain the guy taking a swing belongs to the face of McCoy you see at the end. Can you, for reals? I would have to see the video in slowmo and maybe enhanced, which perhaps was done....It wouldn't surprise me though, if part of what resulted in the apparently definitive conclusion McCoy would not be charged, was McCoy bringing in the clothes he was wearing and witness statements that these were the clothes he was wearing, and there not being a match - "if the boxers don't fit, you must acquit"????? - or otherwise being able to make a convincing argument that he's not the guy swinging down into the pile in that video. Just what was in that red man-purse? I don't know that, and I'm not defending McCoy as not punching down into the pile, just pointing out a lot of the indignation seems to rest around TMZ ID of McCoy as the puncher in that video, which allegedly stems from police ID of McCoy in that video. Since the initial police statements also identified former Chargers RB Curtis Brinkley as the First Brawler. Brinkley says he is innocent and is not identified by the BigTrial story as one of McCoy's party that night. So perhaps the initial ID'ing of McCoy is less reliable than one would like, in the video as well - unless you guys are able to really watch the video and clearly trace back from McCoy's face to the guy who throws the punch. Even if it is, though, there's a long step between throwing a punch at a bar and "felony aggravated assault" or even "simple assault". Expect McCoy and his lawyers and the NFLPA to make a strong case about equitable punishment if McCoy is suspended 1-2 games for simply showing up in a bar video and taking a swing, with no charges filed. yeah, some thing like that...can't get excited about a bar fight.. sorry. happens every night in a hundred places.. yeah I know RG must protect the shield, but... wow, 119 pages of posts? new world record eball?
DC Tom Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 wow, 119 pages of posts? new world record eball? Not even close. 662 more pages to go...
K-9 Posted February 26, 2016 Posted February 26, 2016 ... Oh wait.....we live in a world where we are actually duelists......we take 10 paces....turn....and fire.....all by the rules LoL! Marquess of Queensbury rules apply. I wonder if the cop slapped Shady's friend with a white glove first.
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