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If the Broncos were the ones down 16-10 in the SB in the 4th quarter and Peyton was in Cam's shoes, I'd be willing to bet he would have made an attempt at that ball. Old as dirt (NFL QB wise) bad back, bad hip, bad foot and all, and I am confident he would have done everything in his power to recover that ball. The SB was on the line there. That effort was inexcusable no matter how close you look at the replay or how you try to justify in Cam's eyes. Showed a real lack of heart IMO, which he seemed to display all game long.

 

I'm sure Peyton would have made an attempt at the ball. But he's had what, 18 years and 2 bitter Superbowl losses to learn that these opportunities don't come lightly

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The last shot I saw of the play, it looked like a Denver lineman maybe had only an arm on it and if Cam had dove down with his body on it he easily could have taken it away from whoever had his arm on it. I may have seen it incorrectly however, IMO, at that point in the game, it was clear that if Denver recovered the fumble, they were SB champs. That was the play that basically ended Carolina's season-long journey for a championship. Therefore, even if a 300-pound lineman has pounced his entire body completely on top of it you still dive and go after the ball.

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After watching the replay a few times, I think he was trying to anticipate the ricochet. In fact, he almost anticipates the ricochet correctly.

 

After his odd hop back, Cam does go to the ground chasing the ball and it squirts right past him.

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Pictures don't always show the whole picture, but between what 26Corner posted and the picture below, I'd be pissed if I were a Panther's fan.

 

 

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He sure looks like the closest one to the ball. Funny bounce or not, he should be on the ground trying to get the ball.

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Cam admits he didn't go for it because he was afraid of getting hurt in the Super Bowl. Rough look.

 

Joe Person @josephperson 2h2 hours ago

Cam: "I don't dive on 1 fumble because the way my leg was-- it could have been (contorted) in a way. OK, you say my effort. I didn't dive...

Joe Person @josephperson 2h2 hours ago

"...down. I fumbled. That's fine. But we didn't lose that game because of that fumble. I can tell you that" -- Cam

This kid's rise and fall have been equally meteoric.

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This was a very humbling loss. We'll see.

no. It wasn't. His reactions were the exact same to this as they were 4 yrs ago.

 

What happens next, we all have our ideas. But he needs to grow.

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Cam admits he didn't go for it because he was afraid of getting hurt in the Super Bowl. Rough look.

 

Joe Person @josephperson 2h2 hours ago

Cam: "I don't dive on 1 fumble because the way my leg was-- it could have been (contorted) in a way. OK, you say my effort. I didn't dive...

 

Joe Person @josephperson 2h2 hours ago

"...down. I fumbled. That's fine. But we didn't lose that game because of that fumble. I can tell you that" -- Cam

 

This kid's rise and fall have been equally meteoric.

 

Does he realize they punched in the decisive TD right after that? Keep it classy Cam.

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Cam admits he didn't go for it because he was afraid of getting hurt in the Super Bowl. Rough look.

 

Joe Person @josephperson 2h2 hours ago

Cam: "I don't dive on 1 fumble because the way my leg was-- it could have been (contorted) in a way. OK, you say my effort. I didn't dive...

 

Joe Person @josephperson 2h2 hours ago

"...down. I fumbled. That's fine. But we didn't lose that game because of that fumble. I can tell you that" -- Cam

 

This kid's rise and fall have been equally meteoric.

 

Wow - WTF?!?

 

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It was a synopsis of his play the entire game. The moment got to him. It showed in the first quarter and continued throughout the day. He hesitated on the fumble and it sealed the Panthers fate. Not the reason they lost but the final nail in the coffin.

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The thing about his fall is that he will get back up again. He has too much natural talent not to. At this rate I wonder about his confidence going forward; will he be able to achieve the success he speaks of and prove to even himself he can wear an "S" on his chest?

It is going to be interesting next year in the first couple games. If the schedule is tough and they start off rough then Cam may be a little rattled still. They need a few soft opponents and he will be fine again. Growing pains or not, he needs to learn

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I have played sports with guys very much like Newton. Great local athletes, the best player in a league, but would give off the attitude of "I played good enough, it's the rest of you that need to play better for us to win"...it's often true, but it's not good leadership, especially on the field. Marino often gave off that vibe, appearing to throw teammates under the bus.

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I have played sports with guys very much like Newton. Great local athletes, the best player in a league, but would give off the attitude of "I played good enough, it's the rest of you that need to play better for us to win"...it's often true, but it's not good leadership, especially on the field. Marino often gave off that vibe, appearing to throw teammates under the bus.

Greg McElroy had some strong words about it.

 

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/02/greg_mcelroy_says_cam_newton_q.html

 

"What I have issues with is the way he did not jump on the fumble after he dropped the ball -- and I know he was getting beat up all game -- but he jumped away from the ball when the ball's on the ground. I have never not one time in my life seen a player do that, especially a quarterback. And you know what? His teammates will look at him a little different after that, especially his teammates on the defensive side of the football."

 

"You can say what you want. The postgame press conference didn't bother me -- it really didn't -- because I think the media has a certain level of self-importance, especially when it comes to the Super Bowl. But I have big issues with the way he did not jump on the football."

 

"...It has everything to do with the fact that I think he quit on his team, and it was most evident by the way he did not jump on the football."

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