chris heff Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 His career went on to be good after "Body Heat". But he had slow eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 im sure 49ers would love to get out from under that contract...who in the world is calling him a franchise qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Did Kaep also blame Roman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Kap is still young, he has displayed all the physical traits of being a long term starter at one point or another. I guess I'm the only one who thinks it would be a good landing spot to resurrect a once promising career? Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) Interesting stuff on his $. So they can just cut him prior to April 1 and they owe him nothing and only have about 4m or so in dead cap space? That's some contract. Edited February 3, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 shame on his agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Interesting stuff on his $. So they can just cut him prior to April 1 and they owe him nothing and only have about 4m or so in dead cap space? That's some contract. Yeah I hope more teams structure QB's contracts like this one. Nothing like strapping your cap for Tannehill/Kap/Dalton. Â If Tyrod has another solid year I hope the front office constructs something similar. He will have a ton of leverage if he plays out the whole year so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Yeah I hope more teams structure QB's contracts like this one. Nothing like strapping your cap for Tannehill/Kap/Dalton. Â If Tyrod has another solid year I hope the front office constructs something similar. He will have a ton of leverage if he plays out the whole year so who knows. Â Assuming he plays well. I hope Roman throws the whole playbook at him so we can see whether he has what it takes or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Interesting stuff on his $. So they can just cut him prior to April 1 and they owe him nothing and only have about 4m or so in dead cap space? That's some contract.Read up on it because I think it is what we will be looking at for TT. Basically the 1st 3 years he gets his salary and like a $12M signing bonus. Year 4 his other guaranteed money kicks in (spread over the last 3 years). It's a great way to structure a deal for a guy that you want more time to figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Kap is still young, he has displayed all the physical traits of being a long term starter at one point or another. I guess I'm the only one who thinks it would be a good landing spot to resurrect a once promising career? Odd. Yeah, I'm surprised at all of the poo pooing going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Â Assuming he plays well. I hope Roman throws the whole playbook at him so we can see whether he has what it takes or not. Yep. Even if he does I'd put him in the same class as the QB's I mentioned above. None of them have convinced me they can win with their skill set when it matters. Â If he starts off hot for the first 8 games or so I would draft up an incentive laden deal while the team still has some semblance of leverage. Mediocre QB's are a caps nightmare, not good enough to carry the roster but just good enough to absorb $$$$ and restrict your 53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Read up on it because I think it is what we will be looking at for TT. Basically the 1st 3 years he gets his salary and like a $12M signing bonus. Year 4 his other guaranteed money kicks in (spread over the last 3 years). It's a great way to structure a deal for a guy that you want more time to figure out. From a team perspective that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Yeah I hope more teams structure QB's contracts like this one. Nothing like strapping your cap for Tannehill/Kap/Dalton. Â If Tyrod has another solid year I hope the front office constructs something similar. He will have a ton of leverage if he plays out the whole year so who knows. The alternative for a guy like kaepernick was lower salary but higher guarantees.... It's an interesting spot. Â Would you rather 5 for 100m but mostly year to year or 5 for 80 but be tied to the guy deeper into the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Would they need to pay both him and Fitz? Fitzy going to get about 8mill/year I saw, that's a lot for 2 QBs. Two not so great QBs. Â I think this is random speculation. Mehta cites unnamed "sources" that Kaep wants out and would prefer the Jets. Could be casual conversation. No indication of interest on the Jets side. Â That said, my thinking is if they did go for him, they would need to let Fitz move on. Which makes me smile, actually, because there is now a multiyear, multiteam pattern of "teams moving on from Fitzpatrick but failing signally to replace him with anyone better". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) If I'm the Jets I would go with Kap > Fitz. Kap is young and took a team to the SB. Fitzy's ceiling was probably what they saw last year. Neither is great right now , but if I had to choose I take the one with upside who has shown more promise. Edited February 3, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Yeah, I'm surprised at all of the poo pooing going on here. Have you watched him try to operate from the pocket? If you have, it shouldn't come as a surprise. Â GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 The alternative for a guy like kaepernick was lower salary but higher guarantees.... It's an interesting spot. Â Would you rather 5 for 100m but mostly year to year or 5 for 80 but be tied to the guy deeper into the deal? I like what they did. Open up the vault > just make the player earn it. Very few QB's have shown the ability to reap the benefits of a contract like Kaps. Â He was overly confident and his agent was foolish IMO. The player pays his agent to avoid making these kinds of mistakes. He should have been able to stroke Kap's ego in private and negotiate a deal similar to Tannehill's/Dalton's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Colin, right division, wrong team. Come to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I think that Kaepernick still has a chance to be good. I don't want him in the division. Hopefully the Jets keep Fitz because you know that he will never finish games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Has anyone else noticed that "dynamic" basically means runs fast when they're discussing QBs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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