Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 5 years $92M $35M Guaranteed CBF
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 4 Year Extension, $80M, $12M Signing Bonus, $50M Guaranteed. Based on incentives he makes between 12.5M and 20M per year from '17 to '20. This is assuming the negotiations happen this offseason, of course. I'll stick with this
transient Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 $100 1st phone (iPhone 6s included) $40 each additional phone or tablet $25 for basic messaging $10 one time connection fee 2 year contract, otherwise breakage fees apply
Kirby Jackson Posted February 10, 2016 Author Posted February 10, 2016 0.So you suspect that he is out of the league after next year?
FireChan Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 So you suspect that he is out of the league after next year? Thought it was with the Bills.
Kirby Jackson Posted February 10, 2016 Author Posted February 10, 2016 Thought it was with the Bills.No, but even that would seem like a long shot. There is no way that the Bills offer him less than like $8M.
FireChan Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 No, but even that would seem like a long shot. There is no way that the Bills offer him less than like $8M. When Carson Wentz goes 5-1 after replacing TT, why would they offer TT $8M?
machine gun kelly Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Alright, this topic has derailed about 5 other threads with everyone arguing over what Tyrod will be getting on his next contract. Thought that it made sense to centralize that conversation. Please do not respond with "we have to wait and see what he does next year" or start arguing over someone else's opinion. Please give your anticipated contract and why you came up with that. As part of this exercise you are projecting his level of play. If you think that he falls on his face you may have a McCown type of deal as a guy that MAY be a starter. If he improves you may be looking at a Russell Wilson type of deal. That is a pretty wide range. I will go first: 6 years $114 M $15 M signing bonus $60 M guaranteed for injury for the 1st 3 years and fully guaranteed after that This is basically the Kaepernick deal (a little different). If gives the Bills time to continue the evaluation process without being on the hook for a large guaranteed portion. They will basically be responsible for the $15 M signing bonus as well as his annual salary for the 1st 3 years. At that point the other $45 M in guarantees would kick in (along with his base). What are your projections? KJ, i think you nailed it in a Kaepernick deal. That protects both sides.
Kirby Jackson Posted February 10, 2016 Author Posted February 10, 2016 When Carson Wentz goes 5-1 after replacing TT, why would they offer TT $8M?Oh, you are anticipating a QB in round 1? You are also anticipating that Taylor will go from a Pro Bowl QB to the bench in 10 starts? Wentz will be gone in the top 4 so you are thinking of adding in next year's 1st and this year's 2nd to get someone to pick up the phone? Just to sum up, you must be anticipating, 2 1sts and a 2nd to get a QB that replaces a guy coming off of a trip to the Pro Bowl who fails so badly that he loses his job after 10 games. You are thinking that is the most likely scenario?!? That's just not logical at all. KJ, i think you nailed it in a Kaepernick deal. That protects both sides. It seems to be the perfect model.
FireChan Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Oh, you are anticipating a QB in round 1? You are also anticipating that Taylor will go from a Pro Bowl QB to the bench in 10 starts? Wentz will be gone in the top 4 so you are thinking of adding in next year's 1st and this year's 2nd to get someone to pick up the phone? Just to sum up, you must be anticipating, 2 1sts and a 2nd to get a QB that replaces a guy coming off of a trip to the Pro Bowl who fails so badly that he loses his job after 10 games. You are thinking that is the most likely scenario?!? That's just not logical at all. It seems to be the perfect model. Wentz won't be gone in the top 4. Taylor will get hurt and then never play another down.
Kirby Jackson Posted February 10, 2016 Author Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Wentz won't be gone in the top 4. Taylor will get hurt and then never play another down. Wentz may not make it to 2!! He either goes 1 at a trade up, 2 to Cleveland or 4 to Dallas (the most likely IMO). ...and never play another down here or out of the NFL? Edited February 10, 2016 by Kirby Jackson
FireChan Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Wentz may not make it to 2!! He either goes 1 at a trade up, 2 to Cleveland or 4 to Dallas (the most likely IMO). We shall see. I doubt DAL takes him. Cleveland will probably trade back and draft 4 busts. Wentz falls to 8 or 9.
Kirby Jackson Posted February 10, 2016 Author Posted February 10, 2016 We shall see. I doubt DAL takes him. Cleveland will probably trade back and draft 4 busts. Wentz falls to 8 or 9.Again though, do you see the chain of events that you need to happen for your prediction to come true? In all likelihood not one of those things (Tyrod out for good after 10 games, Bills drafting Wentz, Wentz making it out of top 4, Wentz going 5-1) has more than about a 5% chance of happening. Yet your prediction has ALL of those things happening.
FireChan Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Again though, do you see the chain of events that you need to happen for your prediction to come true? In all likelihood not one of those things (Tyrod out for good after 10 games, Bills drafting Wentz, Wentz making it out of top 4, Wentz going 5-1) has more than about a 5% chance of happening. Yet your prediction has ALL of those things happening. I see Tyrod missing two games next year as a relative certainty. I think Wentz makes it out of the top 4. The Bills may not draft Wentz, but I have faith they'll learn from the EJ mistake. Wentz going 5-1 is likely, because he's the truth.
Kirby Jackson Posted February 10, 2016 Author Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) I see Tyrod missing two games next year as a relative certainty. I think Wentz makes it out of the top 4. The Bills may not draft Wentz, but I have faith they'll learn from the EJ mistake. Wentz going 5-1 is likely, because he's the truth.Don't get me wrong, I like Wentz a lot. Supposedly, he is the #1 QB on most boards (including Mayock). The #1 (or at worst close #2) QB doesn't last that long. Dallas really likes him after the Senior Bowl and Cleveland may take him at 2 (either he or Goff). It just doesn't seem realistic that he is on the board very long. Edited February 10, 2016 by Kirby Jackson
The Jokeman Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) Two years $5 million as he leaves Buffalo to be a backup some place as he fails to reproduce his success from this past season in 2016 and the Bills draft Conner Cook in Round 2 to develop behind him. Edited February 11, 2016 by The Jokeman
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