Pete Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 Here is a draft if we cut Shady- 19: R1P19 RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT OHIO STATE 49: R2P18 WR MICHAEL THOMAS OHIO STATE 80: R3P17 OLB SU'A CRAVENS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 118: R4P19 G CHRISTIAN WESTERMAN ARIZONA STATE 156: R5P17 DT D.J. READER CLEMSON 195: R6P17 OLB CURT MAGGITT TENNESSEE
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 Pretty happy with this week's iteration: 19: R1P19 DT SHELDON RANKINS LOUISVILLE 49: R2P18 DE JONATHAN BULLARD FLORIDA 80: R3P17 LB JOSHUA PERRY OHIO STATE 118: R4P19 OT/G SPENCER DRANGO BAYLOR 156: R5P17 QB BRANDON DOUGHTY WESTERN KENTUCKY 195: R6P17 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
Kirby Jackson Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 19: R1P19 OLB NOAH SPENCE EASTERN KENTUCKY 49: R2P18 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH 80: R3P17 WR JOSH DOCTSON TCU 118: R4P19 S T.J. GREEN CLEMSON 156: R5P17 QB BRANDON DOUGHTY WESTERN KENTUCKY 195: R6P17 RB KENNETH DIXON LOUISIANA TECH
RyanC883 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Posted February 12, 2016 19: R1P19 - OLB DARRON LEE - ( need linebacker help..will probably be better fit as ILB in Rex system ..best available versatile all around LB) - OHIO STATE 49: R2P18 WR BRAXTON MILLER - (most likely candidate to play Percy Harvin swiss army knife role) OHIO STATE 80: R3P17 G SEBASTIAN TRETOLA - ( probably needs a little work in pass protect but should be a good mauler in power run game. I would have loved to have drafted a Tackle somewhere in first 3 rounds but after Conklin there is really no one I think that is better than Kouandjio) ARKANSAS 118: R4P19 OLB YANNICK NGAKOUE - (raw but seems to be a great athlete, development project but hopefully can develop into solid Joker 3/4 OLB) MARYLAND 156: R5P17 DT D.J. READER - (http://buildingtheherd.com/ turned me on to this guy. 6'3" - 340 lbs...seems like he would be a great one technique NT allowing Kyle and Marcell to kick outside and cause havoc. Also hopefully eats up blocks to let LBs run free a la Siragusa) CLEMSON 195: R6P17 QB KEVIN HOGAN - (being a Stanford QB he would most likely be familiar with Roman's system. Has decent size ... worth taking a flyer on) STANFORD I like it. My only concern with D. Lee is that (and I have not seen him play) he seems too small. Perhaps someone who watches a ton of CFB can do a comparison of him to Spence? Pretty happy with this week's iteration: 19: R1P19 DT SHELDON RANKINS LOUISVILLE 49: R2P18 DE JONATHAN BULLARD FLORIDA 80: R3P17 LB JOSHUA PERRY OHIO STATE 118: R4P19 OT/G SPENCER DRANGO BAYLOR 156: R5P17 QB BRANDON DOUGHTY WESTERN KENTUCKY 195: R6P17 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA I like this one. Rankins likely goes in the first round. Haven't seen many people taking him here, but he would add a ton of value to the line. My only question (again, don't watch a ton of CFB) is would Perry be able to step in right away? Although perhaps T. Stewart can? I think we need a LB from somewhere who can play day 1.
RyanC883 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Posted February 12, 2016 Here is my try for today. At first blush it appears unrealistic. But, http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings has Wright as a 3rd round prospect. And Nkemdiche was viewed by some as "overranked" prior to his falling out of a hotel window high/drunk. 19: R1P19 OLB NOAH SPENCE (pass rusher we need) EASTERN KENTUCKY 49: R2P18 DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE (top round talent who falls due to character concerns. Rex won't care.) OLE MISS 80: R3P17 OLB SCOOBY WRIGHT (injury concerns, plus Arizona's "scheme" cause him to fall. Not great in coverage, but otherwise solid) ARIZONA 118: R4P19 WR KENNY LAWLER (big WR who can catch contested balls. Physical). CALIFORNIA 156: R5P17 CB D.J. WHITE (solid CB. Not afraid of contact and ripping balls from WR). GEORGIA TECH 195: R6P17 C GRAHAM GLASGOW (fanspeak has him listed as a center. But he is likely to play guard. Played guard, tackle, and center at Michigan. Great depth/potential starter at guard who can be "flexed" in emergency). MICHIGAN
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 Hres mine from today. Probably the best one I've done yet 9: R1P19 ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA 49: R2P18 OT KYLE MURPHY STANFORD 80: R3P17 DE CARL NASSIB PENN STATE 118: R4P19 G GREG PYKE GEORGIA 156: R5P17 DT LUTHER MADDY VIRGINIA TECH 195: R6P17 WR DEVON CAJUSTE STANFORD CBF
P51 Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 I like it. My only concern with D. Lee is that (and I have not seen him play) he seems too small. Perhaps someone who watches a ton of CFB can do a comparison of him to Spence? I like this one. Rankins likely goes in the first round. Haven't seen many people taking him here, but he would add a ton of value to the line. My only question (again, don't watch a ton of CFB) is would Perry be able to step in right away? Although perhaps T. Stewart can? I think we need a LB from somewhere who can play day 1. IMO Lee vs. Spence - Lee covers slot receivers, backs and TE's, very athletic can change direction and run with about anyone, can blitz, needs tackling work, a LB/DB hybrid type, a bigger Deone Bucannon (Arizona S turned LB) type guy, Ryan Shazier (Pittsburgh)-esque if you will, makes plays all over the field. Spence is a DE/LB hybrid-EDGE type, high motor, no experience in coverage, and is mostly an pass rusher who can give high effort vs. the run. Lee vs. Spence = Coverage + vs. Pass Rushing... I personally see Perry as a Sam or Mike backer, who can start day 1, for us I believe he could play a/the Mike backer and contribute day 1.
P51 Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) Here is my try for today. At first blush it appears unrealistic. But, http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings has Wright as a 3rd round prospect. And Nkemdiche was viewed by some as "overranked" prior to his falling out of a hotel window high/drunk. 19: R1P19 OLB NOAH SPENCE (pass rusher we need) EASTERN KENTUCKY 49: R2P18 DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE (top round talent who falls due to character concerns. Rex won't care.) OLE MISS 80: R3P17 OLB SCOOBY WRIGHT (injury concerns, plus Arizona's "scheme" cause him to fall. Not great in coverage, but otherwise solid) ARIZONA Thats a high end bust/boom type of draft, Spence might be drug free, but the Alcohol incident with him last May(?) IMO does not help his addiction issues or help his case that he is past that, I know people are high on him now, but teams will not even have him on their boards. Nkediche reminds me of someone who is good at football, but doesnt love it. Wright is almost the opposite, love the game understands it, but at the next level might not be able to hang athletically. I could see that being the type of a draft that gets a GM fired. Or... If they all play up to their potential (exceed for Scooby) and maintain off the field, it could be a grand slam type or draft... My .02, do with it as you will Edited February 12, 2016 by P51
RyanC883 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Posted February 12, 2016 Here is a draft if we cut Shady- 19: R1P19 RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT OHIO STATE 49: R2P18 WR MICHAEL THOMAS OHIO STATE 80: R3P17 OLB SU'A CRAVENS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 118: R4P19 G CHRISTIAN WESTERMAN ARIZONA STATE 156: R5P17 DT D.J. READER CLEMSON 195: R6P17 OLB CURT MAGGITT TENNESSEE I like it. Hard to justify a 1st on a RB, but Elliott is special, and you found some great D talent later in the draft. Thats a high end bust/boom type of draft, Spence might be drug free, but the Alcohol incident with him last May(?) IMO does not help his addiction issues or help his case that he is past that, I know people are high on him now, but teams will not even have him on their boards. Nkediche reminds me of someone who is good at football, but doesnt love it. Wright is almost the opposite, love the game understands it, but at the next level might not be able to hang athletically. I could see that being the type of a draft that gets a GM fired. Or... If they all play up to their potential (exceed for Scooby) and maintain off the field, it could be a grand slam type or draft... My .02, do with it as you will Wasn't aware of the incidents with Spence post Ohio State. That may cause me to reconsider. I totally agree with your analysis of Nkediche and Scooby. My thought is that in the 2nd you get a guy who may have motivation after falling to the 2nd round. I think Scooby has the talent to hang, but unclear if he can be a "star." I don't mind a boom or bust draft, but I don't like having this many risks. May have to reassess 1st pick. I'd swap for Rankins. Which would also impact later drafting. IMO Lee vs. Spence - Lee covers slot receivers, backs and TE's, very athletic can change direction and run with about anyone, can blitz, needs tackling work, a LB/DB hybrid type, a bigger Deone Bucannon (Arizona S turned LB) type guy, Ryan Shazier (Pittsburgh)-esque if you will, makes plays all over the field. Spence is a DE/LB hybrid-EDGE type, high motor, no experience in coverage, and is mostly an pass rusher who can give high effort vs. the run. Lee vs. Spence = Coverage + vs. Pass Rushing... I personally see Perry as a Sam or Mike backer, who can start day 1, for us I believe he could play a/the Mike backer and contribute day 1. I love Shazier. Do you think Lee would be as injury-prone as Shazier? When healthy, Shazier is an absolute beast.
thebandit27 Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 Once again I tried to ignore any guys that blatantly don't belong on the board (though I succumbed to the allure of taking Justin Simmons in the 5th): 1: R1P19 DE NOAH SPENCE EASTERN KENTUCKY 2: R2P18 DT AUSTIN JOHNSON PENN STATE 3: R3P17 OLB DEION JONES LSU 4: R4P19 WR KENNY LAWLER CALIFORNIA 5: R5P17 S JUSTIN SIMMONS BOSTON COLLEGE 6: R6P17 QB BRANDON DOUGHTY WESTERN KENTUCKY
GunnerBill Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 I love Shazier. Do you think Lee would be as injury-prone as Shazier? When healthy, Shazier is an absolute beast. Shazier was about my favourite player in the 2014 draft. Lee I am not quite as convinced on. I wouldn't hate him at #19 but I wouldn't love it. If I could trade back a few spots pick up another 3rd round pick maybe I would be more comfortable taking him mid 20s.
Kirby Jackson Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 One more: 19: R1P19 OLB MYLES JACK UCLA 49: R2P18 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH 80: R3P17 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA 118: R4P19 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON 156: R5P17 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA 195: R6P17 OLB JOE SCHOBERT WISCONSIN
thebandit27 Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 One more: 19: R1P19 OLB MYLES JACK UCLA 49: R2P18 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH 80: R3P17 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA 118: R4P19 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON 156: R5P17 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA 195: R6P17 OLB JOE SCHOBERT WISCONSIN If we get Myles Jack at 19 I'll turn the draft off, because I don't need to see anything else to be happy about the draft.
Kirby Jackson Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) If we get Myles Jack at 19 I'll turn the draft off, because I don't need to see anything else to be happy about the draft. Ha ha, I was thinking the same thing. Leroi thinks that he is the Bills' guy (which makes me think it is true). As I was doing it and Jack was still there I was getting excited. I developed a bit of a man crush on Vernon Butler late in the season. I saw a few games and he just jumped of the screen. He reminds me of Muhammad Wilkerson. If the Bills can get a LB, him and a WR this draft would be unbelievable. Edited February 12, 2016 by Kirby Jackson
ExWNYer Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 19: R1P19 ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA 49: R2P18 QB PAXTON LYNCH MEMPHIS 80: R3P17 OLB JOSHUA PERRY OHIO STATE 118: R4P19 WR PHAROH COOPER SOUTH CAROLINA 156: R5P17 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE 195: R6P17 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
YoloinOhio Posted February 14, 2016 Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) I like it. My only concern with D. Lee is that (and I have not seen him play) he seems too small. Perhaps someone who watches a ton of CFB can do a comparison of him to Spence? I like this one. Rankins likely goes in the first round. Haven't seen many people taking him here, but he would add a ton of value to the line. My only question (again, don't watch a ton of CFB) is would Perry be able to step in right away? Although perhaps T. Stewart can? I think we need a LB from somewhere who can play day 1. Comparison of Lee and Spence -- Lee played the SAM LB. In osu's D it was two ILB (Perry and McMillan) and Lee. His job was to align on the outside half of the TE, jam him, and set the edge. This LB also blitzes, a lot. Same position Shazier had. Shazier, though, played with much less talented LBs next to him than Lee. Shazier started off as a very poor tackler and improved. Lee is a good tackler, but not great. Hits hard but uses one arm on occasion or doesn't wrap up. OSU practices rugby style tackling, fwiw. He's excellent in coverage and very fast. Great instincts. Makes big plays in big games. Ultra competitive, can talk a little too much on the field. Not really that small - maybe for certain defenses that could be the case? Spence played the "viper" role on the DL which is a stand up weak end. They play a 4-3 under or over. He was very productive as a pass rusher and improved tremendously as a sophomore, particularly against the run in maintaining leverage and strength at the point of attack. Spence and Washington were the best pass rushers before Bosa arrived; when he did Washington moved to DT. Spence was first team all big 10 as a sophomore and an academic all big 10 as well. I think he had 8 sacks and 15 TFL that year. He looked like an NFL talent early on. Edited February 14, 2016 by YoloinOhio
RyanC883 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Posted February 19, 2016 Here is today's entry. Fanspeak has updated rankings it seems. Comments are mostly from what I have read on the players in the pre-draft process. 19: R1P19 OLB LEONARD FLOYD (perfect fit for Rex's 3-4, can also play in a 4-3). GEORGIA 49: R2P18 DT VERNON BUTLER (Disruptive in the middle or wherever he is placed on the line) LOUISIANA TECH 80: R3P17 S KARL JOSEPH (hard hitting safety who loves contact. Either tackling runners or knocking the ball out of would-be receivers hands). WEST VIRGINIA 118: R4P19 WR LEONTE CARROO (WR who can seemingly play in the slot or go deep. Versatile guy who solves need for slot and WR2 deep role). Reminds me a bit of Heinz Ward in terms of quality jack-of-all trades) RUTGERS 156: R5P17 DE CHARLES TAPPER (disruptive DE. Could replace Mario. Seems like a good 3-4 fit). OKLAHOMA 195: R6P17 OT AVERY YOUNG (great zone/multiple scheme run blocker. Will be surprised if available here.) AUBURN
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 Using Fanspeak rankings.... 19: R1P19 ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA 49: R2P18 DE KEVIN DODD CLEMSON 80: R3P17 G DENVER KIRKLAND ARKANSAS 118: R4P19 WR KENNY LAWLER CALIFORNIA 156: R5P17 DT LUTHER MADDY VIRGINIA TECH 195: R6P17 OT JOE DAHL WASHINGTON STATE CBF
Luxy312 Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 19: R1P19 DT A'SHAWN ROBINSON ALABAMA 49: R2P18 OLB JOSHUA PERRY OHIO STATE 80: R3P17 K ROBERTO AGUAYO FLORIDA STATE 118: R4P19 DE AZIZ SHITTU STANFORD 156: R5P17 OG GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN 195: R6P17 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE This wouldn't hurt my feelings at all.
Kirby Jackson Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 19: R1P19 DT DEFOREST BUCKNER OREGON 49: R2P18 WR LAQUON TREADWELL OLE MISS 80: R3P17 OLB DEION JONES LSU 118: R4P19 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISSISSIPPI STATE 156: R5P17 S KEVIN BYARD MIDDLE TENN. STATE 195: R6P17 OT SPENCER DRANGO BAYLOR
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