GunnerBill Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 Composite board, usual rules about not picking someone who I think would obviously be gone, and limiting myself to choosing between the top 3 players on the board each time it was my pick (with the exception of the last pick): 1: R1P19 ILB DARRON LEE OHIO STATE 2: R2P18 OLB SU'A CRAVENS USC 3: R3P17 DT AUSTIN JOHNSON PENN STATE 4: R4P19 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON 5: R4P41 WR KENNY LAWLER CALIFORNIA 6: R5P17 OT SPENCER DRANGO BAYLOR 7: R6P17 CB ANTHONY BROWN PURDUE 8: R6P43 QB VERNON ADAMS OREGON I'd be overjoyed with that draft.
NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 I will do a naked back flip into a pool of butterscotch pudding if we land Correa in round 4...I think he's a top-35 pick and that he'll end up going in round 1. DJ Reader is my guy at NT...if we can land him round 4 or later I'm thrilled. I will do the "Triple Lindy" from the back to school the movie. lol.
H2o Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) I know there is no way in Hades that Stanley lasts until pick #19 in the first round. But if this were to happen for us? Wow: 19: R1P19 OT RONNIE STANLEY NOTRE DAME 49: R2P18 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA 80: R3P17 DE CARL NASSIB PENN STATE 118: R4P19 OLB SCOOBY WRIGHT ARIZONA 140: R4P41 DT ADOLPHUS WASHINGTON OHIO STATE 157: R5P17 DT D.J. READER CLEMSON 193: R6P17 S KAVON FRAZIER CENTRAL MICHIGAN 219: R6P43 DT ANTHONY ZETTEL PENN STATE Here is a 2nd one I did using a different draft board: 19: R1P19 OLB DARRON LEE OHIO STATE 49: R2P18 DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE OLE MISS 80: R3P17 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA 118: R4P19 WR PHAROH COOPER SOUTH CAROLINA 140: R4P41 DT D.J. READER CLEMSON 157: R5P17 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON 193: R6P17 ILB CASSANOVA MCKINZY AUBURN 219: R6P43 QB JACOBY BRISSETT NC STATE Edited March 25, 2016 by H2o
boyst Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 Used the composite board, weird draft. i wouldn't be upset with it. positions i wanted were too much of a reach to go after... ended up like this. 19: R1P19 OT TAYLOR DECKER OHIO STATE 49: R2P18 WR TYLER BOYD PITT 80: R3P17 DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE OLE MISS 118: R4P19 S TYVIS POWELL OHIO STATE 140: R4P41 CB D.J. WHITE GEORGIA TECH 157: R5P17 OLB DADI NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH 193: R6P17 ILB ANTONIO MORRISON FLORIDA 219: R6P43 QB JAKE COKER ALABAMA
boyst Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 I did it again. i took leonard floyd. a higher risk player but he could be good in a 34 set. put him on the strong side if we can get good DE play. Oakman could be a project but he does well against the run setting the outside edge, something important for this scheme that mario didn't do. This draft here would make me very happy. 19: R1P19 OLB LEONARD FLOYD GEORGIA outside edge rusher will be good against the patriots, do well against most teams. could work his way to 34 MLB @ Jack. 49: R2P18 WR MICHAEL THOMAS OHIO STATE This guy could be a steal in the draft. He is just a few notches better than Woods in my opinion and is insurance should we lose him. If we could get him and still keep Harvin at 4 or 5 I would be happy. 80: R3P17 DT WILLIE HENRY MICHIGAN Big DT and someone to work in the future with behind Kyle Williams. He would be PERFECT on this team. He can get to the QB but has some work to do, very young. 21 years old. 118: R4P19 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS He is not as good as Karlos but I still think he could be good for us as a 3rd back. He is not afraid of powering up the middle - about the best thing he can do as he does not get outside well. 140: R4P41 CB D.J. WHITE GEORGIA TECH I could see him playing safety one day. But, in the meantime he would battle Roby for the inside position. 157: R5P17 DE SHAWN OAKMAN BAYLOR Is deal for the run stopping outside edge setter. Not the best at pass rushing - Oakman with Floyd flanking him could be a good combinmation. 193: R6P17 ILB TYLER MATAKEVICH TEMPLE This is a hard hitting type of guy that leads. If Preston Brown is to remain inside at 34 ILB he may be best playing Jack and letting Matakevich be the Mike and fill in where Brandon Spikes left off. He is the smart player and has the awareness that would suit him with Rex Ryans mess of a defense. Could be a late round steal and flourish under Ryan Bros. 219: R6P43 S KAVON FRAZIER CENTRAL MICHIGAN a box type safety that would be good for depth and do well on special teams. He likes to stop the run. He was a special teams as for the Chippewas. Soemthing we need to keep in mind. I could not find any value at OT. But I am perfect satisfied if this was our draft. Key needs with players among BPA at time of draft. no reaches.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 I did it again. i took leonard floyd. a higher risk player but he could be good in a 34 set. put him on the strong side if we can get good DE play. Oakman could be a project but he does well against the run setting the outside edge, something important for this scheme that mario didn't do. This draft here would make me very happy. I could not find any value at OT. But I am perfect satisfied if this was our draft. Key needs with players among BPA at time of draft. no reaches. I find it very difficult to settle on an OT after the first 4
boyst Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 I find it very difficult to settle on an OT after the first 4 and only two maybe worth a crap. decker and that other kid from msu
John from Riverside Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 Composite board, usual rules about not picking someone who I think would obviously be gone, and limiting myself to choosing between the top 3 players on the board each time it was my pick (with the exception of the last pick): 1: R1P19 ILB DARRON LEE OHIO STATE 2: R2P18 OLB SU'A CRAVENS USC 3: R3P17 DT AUSTIN JOHNSON PENN STATE 4: R4P19 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON 5: R4P41 WR KENNY LAWLER CALIFORNIA 6: R5P17 OT SPENCER DRANGO BAYLOR 7: R6P17 CB ANTHONY BROWN PURDUE 8: R6P43 QB VERNON ADAMS OREGON I'd be overjoyed with that draft. Holy crap that is a REALLY nice draft
BADOLBILZ Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 Composite board, usual rules about not picking someone who I think would obviously be gone, and limiting myself to choosing between the top 3 players on the board each time it was my pick (with the exception of the last pick): 1: R1P19 ILB DARRON LEE OHIO STATE 2: R2P18 OLB SU'A CRAVENS USC 3: R3P17 DT AUSTIN JOHNSON PENN STATE 4: R4P19 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON 5: R4P41 WR KENNY LAWLER CALIFORNIA 6: R5P17 OT SPENCER DRANGO BAYLOR 7: R6P17 CB ANTHONY BROWN PURDUE 8: R6P43 QB VERNON ADAMS OREGON I'd be overjoyed with that draft. I trust your takes but do you really think Jayron Kearse is worth anything more than a late round flyer? IMO, he looks like the worst player on the Clemson D most of the time. Looks like Tarzan plays like Jayron.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 25, 2016 Posted March 25, 2016 I went Offense early in this one which felt weird, but I'm okay with the results: 19: R1P19 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE 49: R2P18 WR JOSH DOCTSON TCU 80: R3P17 OLB KYLER FACKRELL UTAH STATE 118: R4P19 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE 140: R4P41 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BYU 157: R5P17 DT D.J. READER CLEMSON 193: R6P17 OLB TERRANCE SMITH FSU 219: R6P43 S DEON BUSH MIAMI (FLA.)
Blokestradamus Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 I've been working on a 2016 roster for a while now and thought I'd look at how the draft would go if I went purely with need picks based off the holes left on my roster. I used the Composite board on Fanspeak so that I wasn't just picking guys from my rankings and making things work out wonderfully for me. Starting ILB: Reggie Ragland - LB - Alabama #2 WR: Kenny Lawler - WR - California Developmental QB: Dakota Prescott - QB - Mississippi State Backup boundary Corner: Eric Murray - CB - Minnesota Nose Tackle: DJ Reader - NT - Clemson Swing IOL: Joe Thuney - OL - NC State Depth LB: Blake Martinez - LB - Stanford Kicker: Ka'imi Fairbairn - K - UCLA First of all, the thing that stands out is only 1 DL and he's a 30-40% of snaps guy in the 4th. This isn't how I would draft (although, with the exception of Murray, I like/love every pick) but I thought it was an interesting exercise to see what I'd get drafting BPA at a specific position in a specific round.
JM57 Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 I know its not Fanspeak but I'm doing a mock draft on another board where we have fans of all 32 teams making selections. I'd appreciate any feedback on how you feel about it. We're currently in the middle of the 4th round. Here's how I've drafted so far, with some rationale behind each pick: #19: Noah Spence - my targets here that were off the board were Rankins, Billings, Treadwell, Conklin, and Decker. I went the best edge rusher left. This got me Spence, which has obvious boom or bust potential. But I see Rex and Whaley going all in this year to secure their future here in Buffalo. #49: Tyler Boyd - again I missed out on targeted players right before my pick including Jeremy Cash, Vernon Butler, and Michael Thomas. Boyd is a versatile athlete who Greg Roman likely loves in that end around/WR pass role in his offense. #80 Shon Coleman - picked an OT here since Kouandijo is trash, Mills is just a guy, and Seantrel's medical condition puts him on shaky ground. Coleman could be a plug and play at RT. #117 Christian Hackenberg - I went off my strategy a little bit and rolled the dice here. I saw him still on the board and thought the 4th round was a perfect place to gamble on a QB with the tools who needs some real intense coaching. Best case scenario here, you have another Kirk Cousins scenario. Worst case, you have a new, cheap backup QB in place of EJ for 2017.
GunnerBill Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) I trust your takes but do you really think Jayron Kearse is worth anything more than a late round flyer? IMO, he looks like the worst player on the Clemson D most of the time. Looks like Tarzan plays like Jayron. It's a good question. As I said, other than the flier on Adams I was taking the approach that the Composite Big Board was "my board" and so limiting myself to nobody outside the top 3 players according to the board each time I picked. I think the other choices there in round 4 were the running back out of Utah and an inside linebacker I have never heard of from a small school.... so safety and Kearse was the pick given I still think, with the uncertainty over Aaron Williams and the fact that Corey might be let go next year, we could stand to add one. Is the 4th a bit rich for him? Maybe. I don't pretend to have the same level of knowledge about all the prospects who might go day 3... so it is hard for me to rank him up against other guys. I saw him play well last year, I also saw him look awful so it is a guy you would be picking and then letting Ed Reed get to work. EDIT: The other safety on that board that seems to be there around the same spot is Davis from Maryland. I have never seen him play but when I took Kearse he was was there as maybe the 6th or 7th best player on the board. I do see safety as a day 3 need now with Blanton's signing. Edited March 26, 2016 by GunnerBill
BADOLBILZ Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 It's a good question. As I said, other than the flier on Adams I was taking the approach that the Composite Big Board was "my board" and so limiting myself to nobody outside the top 3 players according to the board each time I picked. I think the other choices there in round 4 were the running back out of Utah and an inside linebacker I have never heard of from a small school.... so safety and Kearse was the pick given I still think, with the uncertainty over Aaron Williams and the fact that Corey might be let go next year, we could stand to add one. Is the 4th a bit rich for him? Maybe. I don't pretend to have the same level of knowledge about all the prospects who might go day 3... so it is hard for me to rank him up against other guys. I saw him play well last year, I also saw him look awful so it is a guy you would be picking and then letting Ed Reed get to work. EDIT: The other safety on that board that seems to be there around the same spot is Davis from Maryland. I have never seen him play but when I took Kearse he was was there as maybe the 6th or 7th best player on the board. I do see safety as a day 3 need now with Blanton's signing. From what I've seen Davis looks like a much better prospect. Where a lot of these players get picked is relative to the depth of the position in that draft but I'd say Davis is on par with Aaron Williams as a tweener CB/S prospect......maybe even better because of his size.......but of course Buddy Nix was reaching desperately for need at CB in a draft that was weak at the position. Which......of course.......is why you should always pick BPA at high impact/dollar positions early in the draft. Williams was able to transition to safety and had one very good season there and an OK second season in 2014 before the physicality of the position took it's toll. Some other recent reaches in early rounds they've barely gotten anything from.
GunnerBill Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 From what I've seen Davis looks like a much better prospect. Where a lot of these players get picked is relative to the depth of the position in that draft but I'd say Davis is on par with Aaron Williams as a tweener CB/S prospect......maybe even better because of his size.......but of course Buddy Nix was reaching desperately for need at CB in a draft that was weak at the position. Fine. I was going with the board... but if Davis is the superior player I'd have no problem us taking him with one of our 4th rounders.
boyst Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 Messed around and thought about it if Gilmore is potentially gone - of the top 3 CB's there are 2 usually left. 19: R1P19 CB VERNON HARGREAVES III FLORIDA 49: R2P18 WR MICHAEL THOMAS OHIO STATE 80: R3P17 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA 118: R4P19 DT ADOLPHUS WASHINGTON OHIO STATE 140: R4P41 QB BRANDON ALLEN ARKANSAS 157: R5P17 S K.J. DILLON WEST VIRGINIA 193: R6P17 ILB BENIQUEZ BROWN MISS. STATE 219: R6P43 G TED KARRAS ILLINOIS I drafted best on board for first 4 rounds, stritctly best on board.
GunnerBill Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 I'd be surprised if Hargreaves is there at #19. Plenty of teams ahead of us with needs at corner.
boyst Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) I'd be surprised if Hargreaves is there at #19. Plenty of teams ahead of us with needs at corner. i have done about 2 or 3 fantasy drafts a day. its what i do every year because it helps find talent and i google every player to learn about them - look at youtube, etc. in almost every fantasy mock 2 of apple, hargreaves or jackson is there. in many Wentz is there. like this one... I went offense heavy since there was top talent available at the position: 19: R1P19 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA STATE 49: R2P18 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR 80: R3P17 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE 118: R4P19 CB KEVON SEYMOUR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 140: R4P41 DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY TEXAS 157: R5P17 ILB BENIQUEZ BROWN MISSISSIPPI STATE 193: R6P17 OLB CURT MAGGITT TENNESSEE 219: R6P43 DE JASON FANAIKA UTAH 19: R1P19 OT RONNIE STANLEY NOTRE DAME 49: R2P18 OLB SU'A CRAVENS USC 80: R3P17 DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE OLE MISS 118: R4P19 G PARKER EHINGER CINCINNATI 140: R4P41 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY 157: R5P17 S KEVIN BYARD MIDDLE TENN STATE 193: R6P17 OLB ALEX MCCALISTER FLORIDA 219: R6P43 DE JASON FANAIKA UTAH Edited March 27, 2016 by Boyst62
GunnerBill Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 i have done about 2 or 3 fantasy drafts a day. its what i do every year because it helps find talent and i google every player to learn about them - look at youtube, etc. in almost every fantasy mock 2 of apple, hargreaves or jackson is there. in many Wentz is there. like this one... I went offense heavy since there was top talent available at the position: Fair enough, but I just do not think Hargreaves gets to #19. I'd be shocked actually. I see him as the number one corner in the class and as far as I can see Baltimore at #6, Philly at #8, Tampa at #9, the Giants at #10, the Bears at #11, the Saints at #12, the Dolphins at #13 are all in play for Hargreaves. If he makes it past 13 then maybe, but I'd be surprised if none of those teams took him. As for Jackson - I have a high second round grade on him. He is being pushed up a lot of boards because of his measurables and combine performance but he is only the 5th best corner that I have looked at. I think he will still be there at #19, but I wouldn't pick him there. There is also no way Wentz makes it to #19 for my money. Even if Cleveland passes (and I don't believe they will), him getting to #19 is a stretch.
BADOLBILZ Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 Fair enough, but I just do not think Hargreaves gets to #19. I'd be shocked actually. I see him as the number one corner in the class and as far as I can see Baltimore at #6, Philly at #8, Tampa at #9, the Giants at #10, the Bears at #11, the Saints at #12, the Dolphins at #13 are all in play for Hargreaves. If he makes it past 13 then maybe, but I'd be surprised if none of those teams took him. As for Jackson - I have a high second round grade on him. He is being pushed up a lot of boards because of his measurables and combine performance but he is only the 5th best corner that I have looked at. I think he will still be there at #19, but I wouldn't pick him there. There is also no way Wentz makes it to #19 for my money. Even if Cleveland passes (and I don't believe they will), him getting to #19 is a stretch. Jackson is my #1 corner. I admittedly haven't done the kind of work that Bandit and others have done on this draft class........we thank them for that........but I think Jackson will be a better pro than all of the more highly rated corners. But then I really value guys who make big interceptions and can take it to the house. Some years certain positions get ranked pretty early as if set in stone......and then I think sometimes the draft experts become afraid of bumping players with lesser accolades up the board..........or in the case of a guy like Nkemdiche.......bumping high pedigree disappointments way down the board where they deserve to be.
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