Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 " The Raiders have asked to meet with UNLV at the 42-acre site on Friday to discuss the option." http://nfltraderumors.co/141493-2/
26CornerBlitz Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Would love to see the Raiders stay in Oakland. @PGutierrezESPN Las Vegas Raiders? Team officials to visit potential stadium sites in Southern Nevada, per memo from UNLV... http://es.pn/1QIqkKu @DailyNewsVinny #Raiders source: Not confirming or denying report team officials will travel to Las Vegas Friday to scout out 42-acre stadium site
mshady Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 The Las Vegas Raiders has a nice ring to it. With the Rams in Los Angeles now, there are just too many teams in California. That being said, with all the gambling that takes places in Las Vegas, would that be an issue when locating an NFL franchise there? It's deserving of an NFL franchise far more than Oakland, which is known for...um, what exactly?
Augie Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 California does have a lot of teams. They also have a lot of people. That seems to go hand in hand. Vegas? I doubt that for a number of reasons.
jr1 Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Carrot Top, Wayne Newton and others are salivating at appearance fees
Augie Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 I'm genuinely curious. What reasons? * Insufficient population base with very little in the immediate surrounding areas * League perception regarding association with gambling * Almost everyone there is a transplant still loyal to their old team (there's a good Bills following there I noticed) * It's slightly hotter than the surface of the sun. They would need a dome or it would be compared to the World Cup in Qatar Those are just a few off the top of my head. I don't think it would go well at all. But that's me... On the plus side.....there's plenty of room. Carrot Top, Wayne Newton and others are salivating at appearance fees We actually saw Carrot Top there last spring. My wife met him through a mutual friend (that even sounds strange to me). The show was surprisingly entertaining.
machine gun kelly Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 There is absolutely zero chance 24 owners sign off on an NFL team in Sin City. So when someone responds and says Mark Davis can pull one of his dad's move, the NFL counter is they make the schedule and refuse not even one pre-season or regular season game there. This will absolutely never happen. I did love the comment that Vegas is slightly hotter than the sun and so true. Good one Augie.
White Linen Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) * Insufficient population base with very little in the immediate surrounding areas * League perception regarding association with gambling * Almost everyone there is a transplant still loyal to their old team (there's a good Bills following there I noticed) * It's slightly hotter than the surface of the sun. They would need a dome or it would be compared to the World Cup in Qatar Those are just a few off the top of my head. I don't think it would go well at all. But that's me... On the plus side.....there's plenty of room. There's more than enough permanent residents - a lot has changed in that regard. Any new city added is going to have to earn loyalty from their fan base - time will easily take care of that issue. It's not any hotter there during the football Months than any other hot weathered city. Very stale arguments. Edited January 29, 2016 by Triple Threat
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 I question if there's much money in Vegas at the level of an average fan. I'm sure there's tons of money there but I think compared to most cities of equal population the big $$ is shared by a small few. There's no real economy there except for gambling and doubt most of the Casino workers and those that it support that industry earn much money. Probably not enough to buy a ticket to a game. So do agree with Augie in that not enough permanent residents who'd actually spend money on a ticket. The gambling angle is interesting as the league has always stayed away for that reason. I think this is just Mark making enough noise to tr yand get a better offer from the NFL. There's more than enough permanent residents - a lot has changed in that regard. Any new city added is going to have to earn loyalty from their fan base - time will easily take care of that issue. It's not any hotter there during the football Months than any other hot weathered city. Very stale arguments.
YoloinOhio Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Ironically there are tons of Chargers fans in Vegas, probably more than there are in La la land
Augie Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 There's more than enough permanent residents - a lot has changed in that regard. Any new city added is going to have to earn loyalty from their fan base - time will easily take care of that issue. It's not any hotter there during the football Months than any other hot weathered city. Very stale arguments. Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see then, won't we. I'm not a betting guy, but if I were I'd feel pretty good about this one. But you never know...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 29, 2016 Author Posted January 29, 2016 The Las Vegas Raiders has a nice ring to it. With the Rams in Los Angeles now, there are just too many teams in California. That being said, with all the gambling that takes places in Las Vegas, would that be an issue when locating an NFL franchise there? It's deserving of an NFL franchise far more than Oakland, which is known for...um, what exactly? San Francisco it would be cool to have them in LV and they would be the perfect team * Insufficient population base with very little in the immediate surrounding areas * League perception regarding association with gambling * Almost everyone there is a transplant still loyal to their old team (there's a good Bills following there I noticed) * It's slightly hotter than the surface of the sun. They would need a dome or it would be compared to the World Cup in Qatar Those are just a few off the top of my head. I don't think it would go well at all. But that's me... On the plus side.....there's plenty of room. We actually saw Carrot Top there last spring. My wife met him through a mutual friend (that even sounds strange to me). The show was surprisingly entertaining. Phoenix is pretty friggin hot so shouldn't be a problem. What's up with Carrot Top losing all the muscle?
White Linen Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) I question if there's much money in Vegas at the level of an average fan. I'm sure there's tons of money there but I think compared to most cities of equal population the big $$ is shared by a small few. There's no real economy there except for gambling and doubt most of the Casino workers and those that it support that industry earn much money. Probably not enough to buy a ticket to a game. So do agree with Augie in that not enough permanent residents who'd actually spend money on a ticket. The gambling angle is interesting as the league has always stayed away for that reason. I think this is just Mark making enough noise to tr yand get a better offer from the NFL. I'll look up some information to back up my theory, but if you're telling me there's less people with money to buy an NFL ticket in Las Vegas vs a city like Buffalo (one with an NFL team that's supported) - I'm going to have to disagree with you. The economy has changed dramatically over the last 10 years. I think you're getting confused with the Las Vegas strip and the entirety of Clark County. Edited January 29, 2016 by Triple Threat
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 29, 2016 Author Posted January 29, 2016 I think they should put a team in the Dakotas
BUFFALOKIE Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 There's more than enough permanent residents - a lot has changed in that regard. Any new city added is going to have to earn loyalty from their fan base - time will easily take care of that issue. It's not any hotter there during the football Months than any other hot weathered city. Very stale arguments. Houston and Miami are worse than vegas. The old "dry heat" saying is valid.
Augie Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 I'll look up some information to back up my theory, but if you're telling me there's less people with money to buy an NFL ticket in Las Vegas vs a city like Buffalo (one with an NFL team that's supported) - I'm going to have to disagree with you. The economy has changed dramatically over the last 10 years. I think you're getting confused with the Las Vegas strip and the entirety of Clark County. We were in Vegas last spring (not for the first time) visiting some friends who have moved there permanently. They are quite wealthy and moved there from California for lower state taxes. They are not alone. We toured the city with them and saw how the well off locals live, going to their clubs and off the strip restaurants. I completely understand where you're coming from. But I still doubt that they have the wealth, economic diversity and corporate sponsorships that would be needed. They don't have Canadian fans or Rochester right up the road. Yes, you can get around the heat with a dome (you'd have to), but there are a lot of other reasons I just don't see it. Being associated with the gambling capital of North America is one of them. Having said all that, it wouldn't be the first time I was ever wrong. Houston and Miami are worse than vegas. The old "dry heat" saying is valid. I beg to differ. It's like opening the oven on Thanksgiving day to check the bird.....and that hot dry air blasts you in the face preventing you from breathing. When it's humid you just sweat and stay hydrated (I lived in SW Florida for 18 years). But in Vegas it would be 110 degrees by 9:30-10:00 am and you couldn't even sit by the pool. This is I guess a matter of personal preference. Turns out that heat and only 4-8% humidity makes it hard for me to breath. And now I'll step away for awhile so others can discuss their preferred climates.
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