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John Elway made two highl critisized yet critical decisions that led the Broncos to the Super Bowl this year. One flying the face of the continuity crowd he fired John Fox and brought in Gary Kubiak. As much as people want to piss and moan about the Broncos offense, in a result oriented business this led to victory on the field (Although Doug Whaley continues to just crush Elway on paper) The second decision was to use a second round draft pick on Brock Oswellier even though the Broncos had plenty of other "holes". Brock held the fort down while Manning was hurt. Anyone who thinks the Bills have #1 QB solved need to realize that a significant investment in #2 QB is not a waste.

 

In the most talent rich draft of the generation, the Panthers passed on easy BPA choices like Von Miller, Marcell Dareus, AJ Green and Patrick Peterson to take the unconventional and much derided Cam Newton at #1 overall.

 

Other teams thrash around (think Eagles) with lots of similar aggressive moves that don't pan out. But as Ricky Bobby's dad said "if you aren't first your last", so they really are going for the gusto, even it failed.

 

The Bills seemed committed to building an 8-8 forever team adding one brick at a time (and starting to see bricks like Kyle Williams, Mario Willams, and Aaron Williams falling off the wall). Ryan did a horrible job coaching this year. Every casual fan knows it. The entire defense has been riding on the backs of the picks Whaley inherited. And we have this odd pride about staying the course in the face of failure.

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John Elway made two highl critisized yet critical decisions that led the Broncos to the Super Bowl this year. One flying the face of the continuity crowd he fired John Fox and brought in Gary Kubiak. As much as people want to piss and moan about the Broncos offense, in a result oriented business this led to victory on the field (Although Doug Whaley continues to just crush Elway on paper) The second decision was to use a second round draft pick on Brock Oswellier even though the Broncos had plenty of other "holes". Brock held the fort down while Manning was hurt. Anyone who thinks the Bills have #1 QB solved need to realize that a significant investment in #2 QB is not a waste.

 

In the most talent rich draft of the generation, the Panthers passed on easy BPA choices like Von Miller, Marcell Dareus, AJ Green and Patrick Peterson to take the unconventional and much derided Cam Newton at #1 overall.

 

Other teams thrash around (think Eagles) with lots of similar aggressive moves that don't pan out. But as Ricky Bobby's dad said "if you aren't first your last", so they really are going for the gusto, even it failed.

 

The Bills seemed committed to building an 8-8 forever team adding one brick at a time (and starting to see bricks like Kyle Williams, Mario Willams, and Aaron Williams falling off the wall). Ryan did a horrible job coaching this year. Every casual fan knows it. The entire defense has been riding on the backs of the picks Whaley inherited. And we have this odd pride about staying the course in the face of failure.

So is the bolded sarcastic or..

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So in summary,

 

Whaley sucks

Rex sucks

The Bills suck

 

Kudos on sucking me in with the thread title.

 

Do not be fooled. All of his threads lead to the same place. Beating the same old tired drum.

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Who was complaining about Osweiler? Every Denver fan knew they needed a QB to backup Manning and groom for the future. Hell, Broncos Fans would have been a lot more upset had they NOT drafted a QB because Manning was coming off the season he didn't play due to having multiple neck surgeries. No one knew how he'd play or how long he'd last. Nothing was controversial at all about Denver drafting a QB.

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You mean like signing a talented but raw 6th round QB that was a backup for 4 years but allowing him time to develop into a stud after showing great promise in his first season as a starter?

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In the most talent rich draft of the generation, the Panthers passed on easy BPA choices like Von Miller, Marcell Dareus, AJ Green and Patrick Peterson to take the unconventional and much derided Cam Newton at #1 overall.

 

 

 

so failure.

 

Hahaha, Brock osweiler is goat and you personally would have picked Dareus and a cornerback as bpa over a flawless specimen of a qb ?

 

Always laugh worthy PP.

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Hahaha, Brock osweiler is goat and you personally would have picked Dareus and a cornerback as bpa over a flawless specimen of a qb ?

 

Always laugh worthy PP.

PP must have been a coma during that draft. There was about as much doubt about Cam Newton as there was about Andrew Luck. :doh:

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PP must have been a coma during that draft. There was about as much doubt about Cam Newton as there was about Andrew Luck. :doh:

 

Yeah and the Bills could have had Andy Reid as their HC too. :rolleyes:

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cam newton was a bold choice? a team without qb picking #1 and taking a 6'5 250lbs beast that can throw and run?

Agreed. In the Panthers position I think it would have been bold not to draft Cam Newton. He was the consensus top pick. Especially the month leading up to the draft. He went from questionable to the only option.

 

Months before the draft Bills fans and more thought he could drop to us and the question was do we want to take him. By the time the whole up to draft process played out with 30 days before the draft it was a lock and the sure choice.

 

That is my recollection that year.

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How is this this different than the "kudos to Elway" thread?

 

PP must have been a coma during that draft. There was about as much doubt about Cam Newton as there was about Andrew Luck. :doh:

 

 

This isn't true. There were legitimate concerns about Newton's boom or bust potential.. Zero concern about Luck.

 

You are rewriting history...

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But as Ricky Bobby's dad said "if you aren't first your last", so they really are going for the gusto, even it failed.

 

I think it should be mentioned, he says later in the movie he was drunk when he said that. So, that marries well with your logic.

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