reddogblitz Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Or, a fact Prove it. Edited January 13, 2016 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 He won a second term, so obviously the voters did not agree with you. And Obama was just a better president. Don't remember a Democrat running a challenge to Obama's nomination in 2012. Your question makes no sense Carter had been president minutes before... Do you think that it was Iran's fear of Carter or Reagan that made them release the hostages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Prove it. Ok! I'll try. This will turn into a obfuscationist cluster fok lol. https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/ Here, this shows older whites were the vast majority of Romney voters while Obama put together a multicultural coalition of voters And this shows how the traditionally racist south supported the non-black candidate http://www.270towin.com/2012_Election/interactive_map Ok, quibble away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I find it interesting that 79% of African Americans who have read War and Peace do not think B. O. is or has been a very good President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Do you think that it was Iran's fear of Carter or Reagan that made them release the hostages? Not fear at all. After all, look at the deal they got out of Reagan for far fewer hostages. Reagan gave our enemies so many weapons for a couple of hostages, and then they just grabbed a few more anyway. Ya, they were real scared of Reagan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Not an arbitrary "letter grade", But a consistent 2/3 majority have ruled on the Obama presidency. U.S. going in the wrong direction. Right Direction or Wrong Track - Rasmussen Reports™ RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Direction of Country Direction of Country - PollingReport.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Here, this shows older whites were the vast majority of Romney voters while Obama put together a multicultural coalition of voters It also shows a vast majority (93%) of blacks voted for Barack Obama. So if you're arguing that a majority of whites voting for Romney is racist, then it stands to reason that a majority blacks voting for Obama is also racist, especially since the percentage of blacks for Obama was significantly higher than whites for Romney. So by your own argument, racism didn't stop Obama. It actually got him elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 It also shows a vast majority (93%) of blacks voted for Barack Obama. So if you're arguing that a majority of whites voting for Romney is racist, then it stands to reason that a majority blacks voting for Obama is also racist, especially since the percentage of blacks for Obama was significantly higher than whites for Romney. So by your own argument, racism didn't stop Obama. It actually got him elected. No, because Obama was also able to get other groups to vote for him. Romney, not so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I'll stay unredeemed That's what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ok! I'll try. This will turn into a obfuscationist cluster fok lol. https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/ Here, this shows older whites were the vast majority of Romney voters while Obama put together a multicultural coalition of voters And this shows how the traditionally racist south supported the non-black candidate http://www.270towin.com/2012_Election/interactive_map Ok, quibble away! Romney won 4% more of voters aged 45-64, and 12% more aged 65 and over. That's not exactly "the vast majority". The more rural states have always voted more conservatively. Your choice of words in referring to them as "the traditionally racist south" is offensive, prejudiced, and more than a little ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ok! I'll try. This will turn into a obfuscationist cluster fok lol. https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/ Here, this shows older whites were the vast majority of Romney voters while Obama put together a multicultural coalition of voters And this shows how the traditionally racist south supported the non-black candidate http://www.270towin.com/2012_Election/interactive_map Ok, quibble away! It's not an obfuscation You said "Older white Americans angry at a black president." Your links prove nothing. First, we have a secret ballot. And even though I guess people answered exit polls, who says they answered them truthfully and if they did, it says nothing about their motive. You can assume what it is, but you can't prove it or for that matter, even know it. Some would describe me as an "older white American" (how old is old and how old is older?) and I voted for BO the first time but not the second time because I disagreed with his policies. The fact that he was black was only a coincidence. I resent someone saying I didn't vote for him because he was black which was your obvious insinuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 It's not an obfuscation You said "Older white Americans angry at a black president." Your links prove nothing. First, we have a secret ballot. And even though I guess people answered exit polls, who says they answered them truthfully and if they did, it says nothing about their motive. You can assume what it is, but you can't prove it or for that matter, even know it. Some would describe me as an "older white American" (how old is old and how old is older?) and I voted for BO the first time but not the second time because I disagreed with his policies. The fact that he was black was only a coincidence. I resent someone saying I didn't vote for him because he was black which was your obvious insinuation. Well, I can't prove you are lying, but I believe you are. So... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 It's not an obfuscation You said "Older white Americans angry at a black president." Your links prove nothing. First, we have a secret ballot. And even though I guess people answered exit polls, who says they answered them truthfully and if they did, it says nothing about their motive. You can assume what it is, but you can't prove it or for that matter, even know it. Some would describe me as an "older white American" (how old is old and how old is older?) and I voted for BO the first time but not the second time because I disagreed with his policies. The fact that he was black was only a coincidence. I resent someone saying I didn't vote for him because he was black which was your obvious insinuation. Gator's own facts more often than not undercut whatever point he's trying to make. He's not interested in honest discussions on any topic, he only cares about hurling insults and claiming victory despite the facts. He's not a serious person, expecting to have a serious conversation with him is about as realistic as believing in Santa Claus. Well, I can't prove you are lying, but I believe you are. So... See? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Well, I can't prove you are lying, but I believe you are. So... I believe you're a prejudiced/racial pig. So ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I believe you're a prejudiced/racial pig. So ... so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 so... So....how has this racial backlash you speak of handicapped him politically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 No, because Obama was also able to get other groups to vote for him. Romney, not so much So racism against whites exclusively got him elected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 So....how has this racial backlash you speak of handicapped him politically? And I thought you were going to ask how my knee was doing! Oh, its led to an inability of the opposition to support anything he does just because He is doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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