bobobonators Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Wilkerson would be a dream. sign him, draft a WR or OL at 19 for the offensive side.
MarlinTheMagician Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 Absolutely. And I think we can get a WR in FA to be #2. Gotta get a right tackle before Tyrod is killed.
starrymessenger Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Even as currently calculated I think Cinci has over 35 million in cap space.
GG Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Jets aren't letting Mo go. But Harrison could be had and will be a better fit.
MarlinTheMagician Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 Yup - AJ Green plus Whitworth = ? Friends in CInci think they are strapped. Agree with the post on linebackers -- need 'em bad. But the front is much more difficult -- 300lb guys that can set the edge and rush about second hardest thing to find after QBs (maybe a stud wideout just as hard -- love Whaley's trade for Sammy, never understood they hate for that). Linebackers can be found, not saying it is easy. But Wilkerson + Dareis + Hughes, all in their prime, is the foundation that will let the linebackers shine.
MarlinTheMagician Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 Tried to paste in Cinci article on their cap situation, but couldn't. They have a ton of talent they need to sign or let go. Green took a huge amount of money, and they only extended Whitworth through 2016 (kind of like Gilmore). I think they have their own pressures -- Adam Jones did himself no favors! No longer up to Jets whether they let Mo go. Fans are furious they did not get it done before this year, now he hits the market.
starrymessenger Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Tried to paste in Cinci article on their cap situation, but couldn't. They have a ton of talent they need to sign or let go. Green took a huge amount of money, and they only extended Whitworth through 2016 (kind of like Gilmore). I think they have their own pressures -- Adam Jones did himself no favors! No longer up to Jets whether they let Mo go. Fans are furious they did not get it done before this year, now he hits the market. Trust me. They have plenty of room to ink M. Jones, and they will. We cant afford to compete for him. Sanu on the other hand should be a value target for Whaley and the Bills.
MarlinTheMagician Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 Although I guess they do have exclusive rights until when - March? But being this close, Mo should test the market -- and Jets have much tied to WIlliams, Richardson, Harrison,. We agree on Sanu. I admit, neither of us really know how much cap pressure Bengals feel, and it all depends on how much they like their own guys. They have money, and need to sign a ton of talent. If they let some walk agree they have plenty of money for Jones. My point really was though - unlikely to pay market for both Sanu and Jones and I don't think we disagree on that. Mo + Sanu!
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 yep, reminds me of what dareus and mario did in 2014. reminds me of how hughes could get to the qb. yep. without linebackers in rex's scheme the dl doesn't matter. I'm with you on that one. Linebacker is a must. But having Wilkerson is a no brainer imo. But like I said, I agree that we need a linebacker. It's a very weird year since the defense regressed. We need to add personnel that fits Rex's scheme so the draft and free agency is going to be defense heavy.
MarlinTheMagician Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 We have a good start. If they add some pieces . . . . Where is the guys that always posts: 19-0 Baby! Love that -
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 OR. We can not spend the big bucks and just nail the draft. No more over priced free agents please. Build through the draft like the Steelers, Seahawks and Packers.
MarlinTheMagician Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 Wilkerson will not be overpriced, which is not to say he won't be expensive. Only over-priced if the under-perform their contract. Very little risk of that with Mo. You can build primarily through the draft and still add pieces through free agency. Which is more likely to be over-priced, a "re-sign" of Bradham, Mario, Glenn, Incognito or Mo Wilkerson? Of those five, I think Wilkerson has the lowest risk of being over-priced. He is an unusual talent.
KD in CA Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Mo would be a dream, but no way the Jets just let him walk.
MarlinTheMagician Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 Jets really don't want to let Mo go, I agree. But they have even more than we do tied up in line. What was Leonard Williams, like 4th overall pick or so? Plus Sheldon Richardson, plus Harrison. They probably can't keep them all, which is likely why they did not tie-up Wilkerson before 2015. They have exclusive rights until March? If I was Mo I would make them pay up for making me wait and if they did not blow me away - why not test the market? Broken leg could help us a little there. I remember Mo coming out in the press here in support of Rex pretty strongly a couple of years ago. I wonder what their relationship is? Not impossible -- Plus the Jets are stupid - never under-estimate that! For example, they are going to pay to try to keep Fitz. More than $4.5 million or so and they blew it, IMHO.
MarlinTheMagician Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 Much has been written in New York press about having to choose between Wilkerson and Richardson. Harrison needs a new contract and Williams played well. Free agent priorities include Ivory and Fitzpatrick. Reportedly, Jets very tight against the cap and Wilkerson has a broken leg. Can't say it is impossible. Personally 10/10 I take Wilkerson over Richardson, but Jets seem to be leaning the other way.
MarlinTheMagician Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 Question: Perhaps someone could help me with this, tell me if I am wrong. As I look at it, Bills don't have big cap problems. From what I have read in the past plus looking at Sportrac, it seems we have over $30 million in cap space available with expected cuts and restructurings before any increase. I think we have $18+ million from cutting Mario/expected Clay restructuring (we all remember the "blow-up the Dolphins" frontloading); and Another $12 or so among cut/restructurings with Kyle Williams, Leodis, Carpenter, Corey Graham, Urbik and Dixon. I don't think any of those are critical pieces - love Kyle but he does not fit this system, can't see him as an end and don't think he can hold the nose. The rest are not core pieces. And this assumes Aaron Williams is retained. Pay Wilkerson $14, and you still have plenty for Cordy and Richie. Is this not in line with fact?
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Plan for 2016: Whaley said perhaps one D splash signing - Please be Mo WIlkerson, perfect fit. Plus one Mid-range - I like Sanu - big, strong possession peceiver with great RAC ability and bonus of throwing ability , but Marvin Jones if you prefer speed to take top off defense. Both are underrated and should trade as mid-range FA's, and will allow us a number 2 for Sammy without breaking bank or compromising draft. Very happy with Sammy, Sanu/Jones, Woods going into next year. Draft: Rounds 1-3 Best available with focus on Tackle, LBs (that can run)and Safety. We are not far off. To execute the foregoing: Cut Mario (swap out for WIlkerson); Restructure Clay -- deal was meant for it; Cut McKelvin, Urbik, Carpenter, Duke Williams, Corey Graham, Harvin, Cut or restructure (only if very favorable) - Kyle. Work to lock up: Cordy, Incognito and Gilmore (nothing left to prove, do it now). Love the cinci WR idea.
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 The problem isn't our DLine it's the scheme there playing. It's vanilla as can be. No Stunts , No spacing, the blitzes are horribly conservative and seems like they've been figured out. The talent is definitely there even without Mario. Watching these playoff games I learned 3 Things #1 - The need for a team to be disciplined and professional #2- The need for true Safeties not corners playing safety. #3- The need to have a balance of pass rushing calls meaning sending Stunts, Blitzes and proper spacing at the right times depending on down and distance. These 3 things the Bills lack by a wide margin I'm hoping there watching and taking notes.
MarlinTheMagician Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 Agree with every one of those. Do those things and add Mo Wilkerson to Dareus and Hughes, with Darby and Gilmore on the edges, and we have the core in place for many years. Build the linebacker and safety talent up through the draft. I think we miss the safety that signed with Tennessee (what the hell was his name) more than I thought we would - he was big enough to cover tight ends, and very smart/coach on the field guy. Not saying he would have made the difference, but instead we have Duke Williams, porn star chaser, and other meatheads. All the guys other than Hughes that take dumb over-exuberance penalties have to go -- Brooks, Duke, Boobie. Bye. We have to get a smarter roster, as well as a more talented one (this is two your points 1 & 2). But I think we need a talent infusion too. MO, MO, MO!!!!
3rdand12 Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Wilkerson would be a dream. sign him, draft a WR or OL at 19 for the offensive side. I wish for the Wilkerson. broken leg and all. Draft wr LB S OT wowee. but i fear he is out of Bills cap space? We have a good start. If they add some pieces . . . . Where is the guys that always posts: 19-0 Baby! Love that - The Senator. his spirit is Always here.
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