26CornerBlitz Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Excuse me for not taking Mike Pereira's word as gospel, but I need more than that. I thought that it was a penalty to headhunt whether you go after a receiver, runner, lineman whatever. (I may be merging NCAA and NFL rulebooks but I didn't think you could do that) I think it should have been a penalty based on him tackling with the crown of his helmet since there was a rule change implemented in 2013. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000238662/native/new-nfl-rules-crownofhelmet-change-to-help-runner-defender?akapp=mobile&akview=phone&akvideo=on Edited January 10, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz
Beerball Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 I know off the topic of the last two minutes, but did anyone else think that TD catch by Byrant was not a catch? To me, when the ball slides from his hands to his butt, that is when the catch sequence starts agin and from that point ge only gets one foot down. I was positive it was going to be overturned....but I think I am the only idiot who thought that. It was the weirdest play of the game. If this makes any sense to you...I thought he never had control of the ball, but I don't think he ever lost control of the ball.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 I know off the topic of the last two minutes, but did anyone else think that TD catch by Byrant was not a catch? To me, when the ball slides from his hands to his butt, that is when the catch sequence starts agin and from that point ge only gets one foot down. I was positive it was going to be overturned....but I think I am the only idiot who thought that. It was definitely a TD catch.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) I watched the game with my buddy who is a diehard Bengals fan. My heart went out to him when Cincy fumbled that last time. I knew what was coming. Both teams played very dirty and it was not a game where sportsman like conduct was regularly displayed. I agree Lewis has to go at this point. The steelers were just as out of control, however Tomlin gets a pass because they won and he has a ring. Edited January 10, 2016 by atlbillsfan1975
26CornerBlitz Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 I watched the game with my buddy who is a diehard Bengals fan. My heart went out to him when Cincy fumbled that last time. I knew what was coming. Both teams played very dirty and it was not a game where sportsman like conduct was regularly displayed. I agree Lewis has to go at this point. The steelers were just as out of control, however Tomlinson gets a pass because they won and he has a ring. LaDanian? Good points in all sincerity.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 JMO The Shazier hit should be a penalty, especially if the league is seriously trying to reduce concussions. Refs blew it and if any expert interprets the rules otherwise, then the rules are screwed up. But, we already knew that didn't we? The Burfict hit was a penalty as well, just to be consistent. Brown was destroyed, didn't dive, and it should have been called. My problem with the next PF is the time in the game they made the call. I'm a hockey fan, and the refs in that league are the best in the world. Why? because they understand the game and don't end up being a huge part in deciding the outcome of the game. The NFL refs do that every game. Whether it is the rules or the league itself, or the incompetence of the refs. The notion that the letter of the law is always followed, and know rational judgement is used, is a problem. The Bengals deserved to lose because they fumbled the ball when the game should have been over. JMO
machine gun kelly Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 You mean Tomlin right? The refs should have either thrown more personal foul flags or ejected someone. When players are starting to get out of control, they have to bring them back in.
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2016 Author Posted January 10, 2016 @rapsheet 1 reason why #Bengals CB Adam Jones was flagged? Even tho Porter was on the field, he made contact with the Field Judge to get Porter back.
plenzmd1 Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 It was definitely a TD catch. I am with Beerball... It was a weird play. Why you so sure was a catch? I think I am missing something in the rules. To me, feet down don't count if the ball is moving. And the ball is definitely moving when goes from chest area to butt.
Beerball Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 @rapsheet 1 reason why #Bengals CB Adam Jones was flagged? Even tho Porter was on the field, he made contact with the Field Judge to get Porter back. We knew that last night.
John in Jax Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 I know off the topic of the last two minutes, but did anyone else think that TD catch by Byrant was not a catch? To me, when the ball slides from his hands to his butt, that is when the catch sequence starts agin and from that point ge only gets one foot down. I was positive it was going to be overturned....but I think I am the only idiot who thought that. I thought this also....and it seemed very clear to me. He was still fumbling with the ball to "secure" it. When he finally did secure it, clamped to his leg, at that point, he only got one foot in.
PromoTheRobot Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) This is why Ryan Shazier wasn't flagged for head shot to Gio BernardI have a challenge for Mike Pereira. Walk towards me while looking over your shoulder. The second you face forward I'll punch you in the face. Then tell me you weren't defenseless. Edited January 10, 2016 by PromoTheRobot
Beerball Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 I have a challenge for Mike Pereira. Walk towards me while looking over your shoulder. The second you face forward I'll punch you in the face. Then tell me you weren't defenseless. I do think that the "he became a runner" crap is just that (crap). Guy took two very quick steps and barely got his head around. The talking heads have a narrative and they stick to it. It's been decided that hit was ok...until the league steps in on Tuesday or Wednesday and fines Shazier.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Burfict faces suspension, Porter could be fined for their actions
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Gotta protect the leagues golden calves like roethlisberger
Beerball Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Burfict faces suspension, Porter could be fined for their actions And now we can expect the league to contact all 32 teams and remind them of the policy regarding team personnel (non-players) on the field. It will become a point of emphasis and so will the sideline areas.
John in Jax Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) I do think that the "he became a runner" crap is just that (crap). Guy took two very quick steps and barely got his head around. The talking heads have a narrative and they stick to it. It's been decided that hit was ok...until the league steps in on Tuesday or Wednesday and fines Shazier. Post #483 above makes it crystal clear that Shazier should have been flagged for a PF. Unless the NFL has changed the rule cited in that post (which was implemented in Sept. 2013), then there really is NO question about it. In fact, reading that rule, the player does NOT even have to go "helmet-to-helmet", and that's to protect the player from himself. The bigger question is how 6 officials blew the call, and then doubly blew it after the challenge by Tomlin (for the fumble).....at that point, they should have for sure called the PF, marked off the penalty, and given the Bungles back the ball. Edited January 10, 2016 by John in Jax
PromoTheRobot Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Burfict faces suspension, Porter could be fined for their actionsBut not a single Steelers player will be suspended.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Kind of funny watching pacman argue with the ref on the field. The guy looked mentally deranged.
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