QB Bills Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Solid player, but not sure about elite. He wasn't even the best cb on the team this year, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The term has nothing to do with where he was born. Duh...really? I prefer big ass Those usually aren't too difficult to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Huge Gilmore fan here. He was my defensive MVP this year. And really helped mentor Darby. The guy is a stud and fits this scheme like a glove. He has it all - size, speed, ability to play press man and zone. Outstanding skill set and work ethic. I don't really care how "elite" is defined but there will be a team to hand him an enormous contract and I really hope it is this one. Watching corner play around the league it's very hard not to appreciate Gilmore's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Huge Gilmore fan here. He was my defensive MVP this year. And really helped mentor Darby. The guy is a stud and fits this scheme like a glove. He has it all - size, speed, ability to play press man and zone. Outstanding skill set and work ethic. I don't really care how "elite" is defined but there will be a team to hand him an enormous contract and I really hope it is this one. Watching corner play around the league it's very hard not to appreciate Gilmore's game. Serious questions, NOT a wisecrack: How many games would you say he won us? Now, has he lost us any games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 He's played 53 of 64 possible games in his career with a full 16 games in his rookie year. This is impressive? I prefer big ass Continue reading Gilmore is a a really good CB, but I wouldn't put him in elite status as say a Sherman or Peterson or Chris Harrris or Talib. Top 15 probably. Darby will end up being better than Gilmore. This. Darby is better now, IMO. He's not even the best CB on the team. Elite? No. You're not lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I would try to trade Gilmore this year. Aim for a a high 2nd or low 1st. McKelvin is a solid #2 CB. I think it's a smart way to manage the cap. With Mario savings and Gilmore savings you can sign a top NT, Ss, and LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I can't consider him elite but at the same time he is a player the Bills can't afford to lose at any cost. Also, Gilmore needs to focus on some fundamentals. Every year he gets hurt because of poor fundamentals while making a tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 If RR is still HC in 2016 I'm sure they'll re-sign Gilmore to a long term contract because the defensive scheme demands it. There are pros and cons to re-signing him to a big long term deal, and in reality too many to discuss here. But cap management is going to be a big issue with OBD unless they stop being go-for-broke each season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 I would try to trade Gilmore this year. Aim for a a high 2nd or low 1st. McKelvin is a solid #2 CB. I think it's a smart way to manage the cap. With Mario savings and Gilmore savings you can sign a top NT, Ss, and LB. This makes no sense to me. He's a key player on defense. You need excellent CB play in this league to succeed on defense. He and Darby are an outstanding tandem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 This makes no sense to me. He's a key player on defense. You need excellent CB play in this league to succeed on defense. He and Darby are an outstanding tandem. Especially if Rex Ryan is the HC, the corners become the most important players on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 This makes no sense to me. He's a key player on defense. You need excellent CB play in this league to succeed on defense. He and Darby are an outstanding tandem. Yup. You need two of them to win in the modern NFL. Lock up Gilmore and you don't need to spend another top pick on a CB (and hope he works out). If they let him walk you can be sure there will be another first round CB taken in 2017-18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 If RR is still HC in 2016 I'm sure they'll re-sign Gilmore to a long term contract because the defensive scheme demands it. There are pros and cons to re-signing him to a big long term deal, and in reality too many to discuss here. But cap management is going to be a big issue with OBD unless they stop being go-for-broke each season. Every team prefers two stud CB's, but I think Rex's scheme only requires one. At least, that's how it was in his early Jets coaching days. I'd wait and see how Darby does next year and make a decision on how much $$ to throw at Gilmore. That said, I love Gilmore and want to see him stay here at the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 This makes no sense to me. He's a key player on defense. You need excellent CB play in this league to succeed on defense. He and Darby are an outstanding tandem. It makes cap sense, not ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I didn't even know Buffalo was his hometown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Just remember Gilmore's deal will be in the 1st couple years when Darby needs a deal. It's going to be impossible to have both CBs at 12+ million cap hits. I make my decision now, who is projected to be the best, that's why Whaley gets paid. Trade 1 now and maximize value. Edited January 9, 2016 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Negotiations are now open with Gilmore starting off at "elite". I expect the Bills to counter with "solid starter" initially. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Elite corners at the very least make the pro bowl if not all-pro I would label Gilmore as very good but certainly not elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 People who don't think Gilmore is at the top 10 of his position have no idea what is going on in the NFL. But Gilmore gave up that catch that one time! Bust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 If RR is still HC in 2016 I'm sure they'll re-sign Gilmore to a long term contract because the defensive scheme demands it. There are pros and cons to re-signing him to a big long term deal, and in reality too many to discuss here. But cap management is going to be a big issue with OBD unless they stop being go-for-broke each season. Agreed, but doesn't this make post 26 something to strongly consider? Count me as one who would take a first round pick for Gilmore in a second. It really is telling that there are better ideas on this board than in the heads of Bills management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 He's done that at least two times and really has to find a way to improve his tackling technique. Been more than too much. He usually can come back though. I wonder how many times he has given himself a concussion I don't know if it's Gilmore, or what he's being asked to do - but he seems to be on the scene when many passes are completed. since an OC can make a conscious decision to avoid throwing to the side of the field where he expects to find Gilmore defending - yet chooses not to - says something about that OC's confidence in making plays against Stephon. all season I've heard fans and announcers repeating the rhetoric of how Gilmore is having a 'great' season. apparently, PFF concurs.. but for the reason given above, I don't agree. great - or elite - defenders are not challenged very often because there's little chance of being successful doing that. he's played well, but I don't think Stephon scares anyone.. certainly not enough to make them avoid attacking him. It's not my money, but I would draft or sign another young CB - and let him go FA after next season. I think there are plenty of young athletes playing ball, who can be as effective as Gilmore I think Darby is more feared. Just looks like with the exception of a few, QBs look the other way. Serious questions, NOT a wisecrack: How many games would you say he won us? Now, has he lost us any games? Probably a wash. None and none? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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