8-8 Forever? Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 I like that every time a coach is fired quickly elsewhere, the general reaction around here is 'wtf, what a **** show over there, why wouldn't they give the coach time??' And here we don't even want to give a coach 6 games before wanting to fire them. Emotions are fun. Bills fans are so bruised and beaten, the heart rules the head, and the coaching debate is the 17th game each season.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Close your eyes. Now imagine--if you can--a wondrous universe wherein this thread has nothing to do with Rex. Yeah the OP tried to steer it away with the title =) among the retreads there are 6 career winning coaches- I think coughlin is a great hire for whomever lands him. I believe trestman will make the most of his second chance and Lovie is a decent coach who I expect to land on his feet. Shanny could go either way
FireChan Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Last year the Bills entered into a coaching search involuntarily. And got the best available one, on paper. I never said the two camps were equal. I'm also not admitting they aren't. But there are most certainly Jets fans who miss Rex. And quite frankly, with the roster Bowles had this year...and WITH CONTINUITY OF HIS DEFENSIVE SYSTEM...and with the addition of Chan, they would have been a force this year. If you think otherwise, then fine. Tomsula is a terrible example. Anything the Niners have done over the past 18 months would be a terrible example for how things should be done. Being mentioned as solid HC candidates? Yet: https://twitter.com/AndrewBrandt/status/685144990536736768 It would be impossible to argue otherwise! The decision to micromanage or not micromanage is a coaching one. Neither is right, neither is wrong. But Bills players most certainly had an abrupt change in this department from 2014 to 2015. Can you explain to me why "on paper" Rex was a better HC candidate than John Fox?
reddogblitz Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 It would be impossible to argue otherwise! We should wait and see what FireChan has to say about that.
PO16FFS Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Mediocrity and the BIlls go hand in hand! Last night my brother ( who is not a Bills fan ) sent me a whatsapp message: "I watched the Bills end of year press conference. You sure Rex Ryan is your guy? The IQ in this league is not very high, players and coaches" So even a non Bills fan who caught this interview, who has no dog in this fight, saw the fraud that Wrecks Ryan is.
The Big Cat Posted January 7, 2016 Author Posted January 7, 2016 Can you explain to me why "on paper" Rex was a better HC candidate than John Fox? Aside from the fact that he was fired in Denver after we hired Rex?
26CornerBlitz Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Mediocrity and the BIlls go hand in hand! Last night my brother ( who is not a Bills fan ) sent me a whatsapp message: "I watched the Bills end of year press conference. You sure Rex Ryan is your guy? The IQ in this league is not very high, players and coaches" So even a non Bills fan who caught this interview, who has no dog in this fight, saw the fraud that Wrecks Ryan is. Who was a bigger fraud than Doug Marrone?
FireChan Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Aside from the fact that he was fired in Denver after we hired Rex? So you're saying the Bills jumped the gun?
Mr. WEO Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Can you explain to me why "on paper" Rex was a better HC candidate than John Fox? Or Kubiak?
The Big Cat Posted January 7, 2016 Author Posted January 7, 2016 So you're saying the Bills jumped the gun? No. I'm not saying that. At all. Or Kubiak? Because he is.
FireChan Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) No. I'm not saying that. At all. Well, hiring "the best coach on paper available" isn't really a great move when better coaches suddenly become available later, right? It's like saying it was great drafting the best QB from the 2013 draft. Edited January 7, 2016 by FireChan
PO16FFS Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Who was a bigger fraud than Doug Marrone? I wasnt talking about Marrone. Nor was my brother's message! BUT: 5 years at 5 million per..... Edited January 7, 2016 by fredex22
26CornerBlitz Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 I wasnt talking about Marrone. Nor was my brother's message! BUT: 5 years at 5 million per.....
The Big Cat Posted January 7, 2016 Author Posted January 7, 2016 Well, hiring "the best coach on paper available" isn't really a great move when better coaches suddenly become available later, right? It's like saying it was great drafting the best QB from the 2013 draft. I answered your question. Per always, your cockamamie inferences are of virtually no relevance.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 @TyDunne New at the BN Blog: "Compromise" the key to fixing this #Bills defense... http://bills.buffalonews.com/2016/01/07/compromise-the-key-for-the-buffalo-bills-defense/
FireChan Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 I answered your question. Per always, your cockamamie inferences are of virtually no relevance. I just assumed you were framing "got the best coach available" as a positive. That was my mistake.
ALF Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 @TyDunne New at the BN Blog: "Compromise" the key to fixing this #Bills defense... http://bills.buffalonews.com/2016/01/07/compromise-the-key-for-the-buffalo-bills-defense/ If only Rex would have used the final game plan from the start of the season. All the injuries the Bills had and they knocked a team out of the playoffs. Good article
chris heff Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Not that he is in he NFL, but Saban has had a pretty good run as a former Bellicheck disciple. Obrien and Groh as well are successful, again at the college level. Saban had a losing record with the Dolphins and quit after assuring them he would not. Al Groh? He was a Parcells' assistant. So the only one from the Belicheck tree with a winning record in the NFL is O'Brien. Edited January 7, 2016 by chris heff
Nihilarian Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 "Truth be told, if Rex were fired, we would all delude ourselves into believing that the crappy retreads on the market were much greater than they are." Isn't this how Rex got this job? Isn't this how his hiring was greeted here by many? ,
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Year 2 of system should yield better offense. Won't wait half the season before throwing a ball Sammys way in 16 Let's get healthy on D and win some games. I'm back on the kool aid, that jets game worked wonders. Keep sipping on that Kool Aid because we're ending up with the same record next year that we had this year. We'll be back in the coaching search soon enough.
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