YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 No, I didn't expect that. I think he sucks.haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) -Rex Ryan wasn't hired to have a year of rebuilding. If the assumption was the RR and Whaley would need a year to get on the same page, it was a lie. If it wasn't, it was a failure. Not disputing that but here we sit....it is about next year now. -I never said he wasn't a problem, but he wasn't the only problem, as you seem to believe. There is nowhere...in any of my posts....that you can point to and say that I said Mario was the only problem. Your reaching. -Yes it does. As I alluded to before, RR was hired to "win now." Not to rebuild a defense. Not to have grSowing pains. See point one. You are correct in that they are in win now mode.....BUT if they right the ship going into year 2 they will point to all the injuries and Rex will not be considered a bad hire. -So, even though this year is considered a total failure, and a huge part of hiring Rex was to make a splash and not have his first year be a total failure, it may be considered a good hire, because it's next year now? That's an argument made on hope while ignoring 5 years of history. Not one I'd make, but you're welcome to it. -It appeared as though that's what you were saying in your post below. If not, I don't understand what you were trying to say. -So hope and ignoring 5 years of history it is. Okay. Let's hope you're right, but I highly doubt it. So next time you tell me I'm only right because I was being negative, we'll pull this one up, okay? Because from where I'm sitting, you'll be wrong by virtue of being positive against all odds. Either let go or promote someone over him and RR. I loathe the organizational set-up right now. Both Rex and Whaley independently reporting to Pegs is not ideal. That depends if RR and DW are not working well with EACH OTHER......if they are then it is a very good situation. It's a tough situation because I wouldn't have put myself into it to begin with, so it's hard to say how to move forward. Either you force Rex onto a GM/czar type (again, not ideal) or you have this disjointed mess. I don't believe that Whaley is happy with how the defense he has basically built (along with Buddy) has been rendered ineffective. I believe in the reports that there is organizational friction on Mario and some other defensive players. There is a very strong possibility that Mario might be the problem here as well and was just a malconent.........I dont know this for sure and this next season will def answer that question. However, I believe Whaley wanted Rex here and played a fundamental role in his hiring. That's a contentious point to many, but operating under that assumption, I fire Whaley for such an egregious error, and I try to hire someone happy with Rex. Can we not act like they didnt do a extensive hiring search and that they interviewed SEVERAL before settling in on Rex Ryan.....and then can we also act like 1 year does not a bad coaching hire make? It has been ONE year. Edited January 10, 2016 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 -So, even though this year is considered a total failure, and a huge part of hiring Rex was to make a splash and not have his first year be a total failure, it may be considered a good hire, because it's next year now? That's an argument made on hope while ignoring 5 years of history. Not one I'd make, but you're welcome to it. -It appeared as though that's what you were saying in your post below. If not, I don't understand what you were trying to say. -So hope and ignoring 5 years of history it is. Okay. Let's hope you're right, but I highly doubt it. So next time you tell me I'm only right because I was being negative, we'll pull this one up, okay? Because from where I'm sitting, you'll be wrong by virtue of being positive against all odds. Yes I am hoping that Rex can turn things around and get us into the playoffs next season Simple as that Lets hope that Rex can figure out what when wrong with this defense.....and that TT can continue to improve into his 2nd starting year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) @john_wawrow Person familiar with #Bills GM Whaley's contract extension tells AP it's for 3 years, coinciding with Rex's deal that runs through 2019. Edited January 11, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 In what world does this make sense if you believe the other story he has one year to WIN In the world where Pegula doesn't care about mere money and tosses it around like confetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 In the world where Pegula doesn't care about mere money and tosses it around like confetti I believe he is very careful in his decisions. Which is good for Bills, Sabres, and whatever music label that is... He ain't lighting his cigars with c-notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 We had great end of year meetings with Russ, Rex and Doug and are already working on next season. #LetsGoBills Bills sign GM Doug Whaley to contract extension Bills ownership voiced their commitment to the tandem of Doug Whaley and Rex Ryan just over a week ago. This weekend they made that commitment official with a contract extension for Buffalo's general manager. Good move! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I'm sure Ralph would approve. Poor Pegs. I have faith that he will figure this out, he will just have to learn the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I'm sure Ralph would approve. Poor Pegs. I have faith that he will figure this out, he will just have to learn the hard way. Extended in January 2016, fired in January 2017 is the Pegula way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Extended in January 2016, fired in January 2017 is the Pegula way. Unless the Bills fall flat on their collective faces next season, prepare to be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 @john_wawrow Person familiar with #Bills GM Whaley's contract extension tells AP it's for 3 years, coinciding with Rex's deal that runs through 2019. How logical is that? very. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Unless the Bills fall flat on their collective faces next season, prepare to be disappointed. What do you consider falling on their collective faces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Unless the Bills fall flat on their collective faces next season, prepare to be disappointed. we would have to be cursed for that to happen.... wait, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Whaley certainly cops a lot of criticism on this board in hindsight. He put together a good roster and how many people would have picked Ryan would have the defence playing so poorly at the start of the season? also wasn't pegs and his wife instrumental in his hiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 What do you consider falling on their collective faces? Anything worse than the 2015 record should be viewed as wheel spinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Anything worse than the 2015 record should be viewed as wheel spinning. Very possible IMO especially if the roster pretty much remains the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Very possible IMO especially if the roster pretty much remains the same. Very possible to improve in my view asthey have enough good players. They need some tweaks in the defensive approach/personnel, continued growth from Tyrod, better injury luck, and to re-sign their own two key UFAs in Glenn/Incognito. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Anything worse than the 2015 record should be viewed as wheel spinning. Anything worse than the 2015 record should be viewed as wheel spinning. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Anything worse than the 2015 record should be viewed as wheel spinning. If this team has an 8 and 8 next year Rex should be fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 If this team has an 8 and 8 next year Rex should be fired If Rex is fired, he will not be the only one. @john_wawrow Person familiar with #Bills GM Whaley's contract extension tells AP it's for 3 years, coinciding with Rex's deal that runs through 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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