YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 @joelsherman1 I have learned Paul DePodesta leaving #Mets to run the NFL Cleveland Browns as executive VP, answerable only to team owner/pres. @afc2nfc DePodesta is of Moneyball fame. With Sashi Brown's promotion, clearly the Browns are invested in trying an analytic approach He was the Jonah Hill character I think
Coach Tuesday Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 I had dinner with DePodesta once. He was very cool - and a very smart dude. If Haslam truly lets him run the show, he'll get things on track.
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2016 Author Posted January 5, 2016 No way this guy hires Doug Marrone @edwerderespn According to sources, Paul DePodesta will be above EXVP of FB Ops Sashi Brown. DePodesta will report to Haslem, president Alec Scheiner.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 No way this guy hires Doug Marrone @edwerderespn According to sources, Paul DePodesta will be above EXVP of FB Ops Sashi Brown. DePodesta will report to Haslem, president Alec Scheiner. why do you say that? Marrone and Mr. Khaki Pants basically founded football analytics.
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2016 Author Posted January 5, 2016 why do you say that? Marrone and Mr. Khaki Pants basically founded football analytics. marrone loves "the analytics"! I respect this move. Maybe it will help them to stop making so many stupid decisions.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 marrone loves "the analytics"! I respect this move. Maybe it will help them to stop making so many stupid decisions. Let's not forget this gem: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/15/upshot/bills-coach-stumbles-on-fourth-down-decisions-and-questions.html?_r=0
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2016 Author Posted January 5, 2016 @caplannfl #Browns are officially an analytics scouting department. I hope it works for them. Could adjust how teams view personnel if it does.
apuszczalowski Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Well, Vegas would probably give the Browns better odds (or just as good) at winning a World Series Championship next season as a Superbowl now
Heitz Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 They do know the Mets are a baseball team, right?
BuffaloBillsForever Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) @joelsherman1 I have learned Paul DePodesta leaving #Mets to run the NFL Cleveland Browns as executive VP, answerable only to team owner/pres. @afc2nfc DePodesta is of Moneyball fame. With Sashi Brown's promotion, clearly the Browns are invested in trying an analytic approach He was the Jonah Hill character I think Perhaps Sashi Brown knows what he is doing. Very impressed with the hire of DePodesta and the forward thinking approach they are bringing to the NFL. Edited January 5, 2016 by BuffaloBillsForever
LeGOATski Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Stupid. Analytics doesn't work with football. Perhaps Sashi Brown knows what he is doing. Very impressed with the hire of DePodesta and the forward thinking approach they are bringing to the NFL. The analytics philosophy isn't new to football, is it? It'll be new if it works, I guess. Edited January 5, 2016 by LeGOATski
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2016 Author Posted January 5, 2016 Stupid. Analytics doesn't work with football. The analytics philosophy isn't new to football, is it? It'll be new if it works, I guess. No, but advanced analytics to this degree is. Analytics has been a *part* of what NFL teams look at, but now you have Analytics running the show. Football is pretty subjective and just "messier" than baseball when it comes to personnel. So many "football guys" just simply don't put a ton of faith in it determining success. If this works for the Browns they will be innovators. But it is truly experimental. Any HC they bring on will really need to have the ability and desire to embrace it as a driving force in the day to day decision making.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Stupid. Analytics doesn't work with football. The analytics philosophy isn't new to football, is it? It'll be new if it works, I guess. The degree in which they are going to be taking it...yeah it is new. Football is still pretty much all scouting based. The Browns will rely on proprietary models that DePodesta and his staff come up with on who to draft (creating a draft board), player projections, who to sign as free agents etc. They will still scout but their resources will be focused more on the analytical models I assume. That would be groundbreaking in the NFL. Edited January 5, 2016 by BuffaloBillsForever
LeGOATski Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 No, but advanced analytics to this degree is. Analytics has been a *part* of what NFL teams look at, but now you have Analytics running the show. Football is pretty subjective and just "messier" than baseball when it comes to personnel. So many "football guys" just simply don't put a ton of faith in it determining success. If this works for the Browns they will be innovators. But it is truly experimental. Any HC they bring on will really need to have the ability and desire to embrace it as a driving force in the day to day decision making. It's just so late to the game. If you're going to experiment with this, it should've been done in the early 2000s. We already know it doesn't work for football the same way it does baseball. They're going to draft players based on numbers? They're going to fail. Fail hard.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 It's just so late to the game. If you're going to experiment with this, it should've been done in the early 2000s. We already know it doesn't work for football the same way it does baseball. They're going to draft players based on numbers? They're going to fail. Fail hard. You have no idea what you are talking about.
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2016 Author Posted January 5, 2016 It's just so late to the game. If you're going to experiment with this, it should've been done in the early 2000s. We already know it doesn't work for football the same way it does baseball. They're going to draft players based on numbers? They're going to fail. Fail hard. Certainly possible, or it could go the other way. Billionaires usually don't become billionaires without taking risks. I don't think Haslam is a good owner, but he's also not just standing by doing the same thing he's done since he bought the team and hoping for different results. It will be interesting, if nothing else.
dave mcbride Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Speaking of the one analytics guy who actually made a name for himself in the NFL, Paraag Marathe has been demoted/reassigned: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14287507/san-francisco-49ers-demote-team-president-paraag-marathe .
White Linen Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 The degree in which they are going to be taking it...yeah it is new. Football is still pretty much all scouting based. The Browns will rely on proprietary models that DePodesta and his staff come up with on who to draft (creating a draft board), player projections, who to sign as free agents etc. They will still scout but their resources will be focused more on the analytical models I assume. That would be groundbreaking in the NFL. And it won't work.
DC Tom Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 They do know the Mets are a baseball team, right? I don't even think the Browns know they're a football team.
dave mcbride Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 And it won't work. Who knows whether it will or not. Can't hurt to try at this point.
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