hondo in seattle Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Why do we trust the media? To give one of the more recent examples of media fallibility, PFT recently reported "Chuck Pagano undoubtedly will be fired" if Indy fails to make the playoffs. If fact, his contract was extended. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/20/whats-next-for-chuck-pagano/) This is the trend in the media covering the NFL. Reporters run wild with speculation and unsubstantiated reports from poorly placed sources. DW is going to be fired, EJ's going to be cut, the Pegulas issue an ultimatum.... why do we listen to this crap?
Manther Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 There are just incredible leaks in the organization if this scenario is exactly correct. Only four (if Kim and Terry both present) people were a part of the conversation. That aside, there really is no realistic alternative here. Rex backed himself into this corner with all of his hype last offseason. Whaley put himself in this spot by leaving little room to sign anyone this upcoming season. The reality for both of them is there needs to be addition by subtraction in players released and a very, very solid draft. Everything can change from one season to the next but winning the division to get into the playoffs remains a long shot with Bellicheat and his sidekick quarterback still owning the Bills. Miami is probably a mess next year and while the Jets may not improve greatly there is no obvious reason to assume they will regress. The point is that there is no reason to believe the Bills easily make the playoffs next year. Regarding leaks the one constant over time is......Russ Brandon I like it. The talent is there. Coach it to the playoffs or GTFO, Rex.Yep!!
FireChan Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 So our Vic suspicions appear valid. It's a ludicrous ultimatum anyways. The goal isn't to 'make the playoffs.' And, quite frankly, I cringe every time some one in the organization says it. The goal is to win championships. So, if Vic's report is to be believed, they grab a wildcard in 2016, lose in the first round, but everyone goes home happy? Doesn't matter what happens in 2017? Everyone goes home with a job.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 So our Vic suspicions appear valid. It's a ludicrous ultimatum anyways. The goal isn't to 'make the playoffs.' And, quite frankly, I cringe every time some one in the organization says it. The goal is to win championships. So, if Vic's report is to be believed, they grab a wildcard in 2016, lose in the first round, but everyone goes home happy? Doesn't matter what happens in 2017? If the Pegula statement from last week is any indication, Vic's story doesn't make any sense.
Toledo Bill Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 2 words - Russ Brandon. It will all roll off him
The Big Cat Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 If the Pegula statement from last week is any indication, Vic's story doesn't make any sense. Neither does the ultimatum. Also, enough with this Russ Brandon Svengali nonsense. Jesus, people.
bananathumb Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 There is no story here. Pegs hasn't the gumption to tell his two big boys this and even if he did, it is no big deal. The Bills will miss the playoffs and they'd be fired with or without this "warning", or at least Rex will. The question is, will he fire Rex when he's 3-5 by mid-season? I doubt it.
boater Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 There is no story here. Pegs hasn't the gumption to tell his two big boys this and even if he did, it is no big deal. The Bills will miss the playoffs and they'd be fired with or without this "warning", or at least Rex will. The question is, will he fire Rex when he's 3-5 by mid-season? I doubt it. Do you have first hand knowledge of TP that we don't? I think a guy who turned a $10,000 loan into a net worth of 3.8 billion would have plenty of gumption.
May Day 10 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 So our Vic suspicions appear valid. It's a ludicrous ultimatum anyways. The goal isn't to 'make the playoffs.' And, quite frankly, I cringe every time some one in the organization says it. The goal is to win championships. So, if Vic's report is to be believed, they grab a wildcard in 2016, lose in the first round, but everyone goes home happy? Doesn't matter what happens in 2017? Its a step forward... past where this organization has been in nearly 2 decades. IMO thats a satisfying season. I, too have cringed at how the ultimate goal changed to "playoffs" over the years... I don't like the concrete ultimatum if its true (and I kind of doubt it is true). There are so many variables. If this team is a "good" 8-8 or 9-7 (w/o playoffs) with injuries, fixable things, lost some close games to NE, SEA, ARZ, etc... should they blow it up? If the team falls back into the 4-6 win range, then yes, I think it may be time to re-imagine the football side (without any input from Russ Brandon)
BackInDaDay Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 the only thing that any fan should care about, is that the 'point' of the reported message was actually delivered to Frick and Frack, and that they get their heads out of their collective butts long enough to work together in getting the damned defense fixed in 2016.. a sense of urgency is a good thing.. i doubt Pegula wanted to prolong the same losing culture he inherited
26CornerBlitz Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 @JeremyWGR I’m told the Bills are finalizing the language on a multi-year extension with Whaley. Sides have verbally agreed on terms.
Perk71 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 @JeremyWGR I’m told the Bills are finalizing the language on a multi-year extension with Whaley. Sides have verbally agreed on terms. Interesting considering the topic... I hope they extend his contract personally.
Deranged Rhino Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 I don't know what that is an image of (a coat of arms?) but I dig it.
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2016 Author Posted January 5, 2016 Aaaand Jeremy White just tweeted Whaley and Bills finalizing multi-year extension.
dave mcbride Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Why do we trust the media? To give one of the more recent examples of media fallibility, PFT recently reported "Chuck Pagano undoubtedly will be fired" if Indy fails to make the playoffs. If fact, his contract was extended. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/20/whats-next-for-chuck-pagano/) This is the trend in the media covering the NFL. Reporters run wild with speculation and unsubstantiated reports from poorly placed sources. DW is going to be fired, EJ's going to be cut, the Pegulas issue an ultimatum.... why do we listen to this crap? I think the Pegulas are far less mercurial than Jimmy Irsay. That's the big difference.
The Big Cat Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 @JeremyWGR I’m told the Bills are finalizing the language on a multi-year extension with Whaley. Sides have verbally agreed on terms. Aaaand Jeremy White just tweeted Whaley and Bills finalizing multi-year extension. Oh, Vic.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Interesting considering the topic... I hope they extend his contract personally. Shouldn't come as a surprise. Vic needs to stop.....He's having a very bad year....A disaster even.
FireChan Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 I don't know what that is an image of (a coat of arms?) but I dig it. Google search for "Whaley Shield" failed me. It was as close as I could get.
May Day 10 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 whaleys going rogue and signing himself to an extension
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