3rdand12 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) This is Doug's third year. second head coach, Off and D coord. remember what the meaning of continuity truly means Chan. A Foreign term for Bills fans I suppose Meaneth, same people on same page for an "extended" period of time. lets just give it a shot. Edited January 5, 2016 by 3rdand12
Heitz Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 @salmaiorana The last version of this, with my source telling me there was no Pegula ultimatum. Whaley is speculation. http://on.rocne.ws/1R9tWpY via @DandC Poor EJ can't get a break, even in an off-season article: "Welcome to the offseason, where rumors fly more haphazardly than an EJ Manuel pass."
3rdand12 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Scott Berchold Ha ! not bad Hmn, not bad at all.
Augie Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 As much as I dislike Rex for a variety of reasons, I do have to agree that another year is probably the rational choice. That gives me hope for the owners, if not confidence in the coach. (I just threw up a little.)
Agent 91 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 I dont like it... see Cleveland Browns. 1 yr is not a good evaluation period... especially when there was no first rd pick. And we dont have a team in a bag. We need progress. What if we get 10 wins... 11 wins and still dont get in. Does he deserve an ax? Hell no. This is false. Pegula isnt that guy. Did he have bylsema (however its spelled) in that meeting.
BobbyC81 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 So our Vic suspicions appear valid. It's a ludicrous ultimatum anyways. The goal isn't to 'make the playoffs.' And, quite frankly, I cringe every time some one in the organization says it. The goal is to win championships. So, if Vic's report is to be believed, they grab a wildcard in 2016, lose in the first round, but everyone goes home happy? Doesn't matter what happens in 2017? Normally I would agree with you, but when you haven't made the playoffs in 16 years, it's best to start with a more reasonable goal.
Coach Tuesday Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 I dont like it... see Cleveland Browns. 1 yr is not a good evaluation period... especially when there was no first rd pick. And we dont have a team in a bag. We need progress. What if we get 10 wins... 11 wins and still dont get in. Does he deserve an ax? Hell no. This is false. Pegula isnt that guy. Did he have bylsema (however its spelled) in that meeting. You are way behind bud.
Agent 91 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 I hate this. Either he thinks Whaley and Rex are the right guys for the job and he should give them a couple of years to work things out, or he doesn't think they are the guys and he shouldn't waste any more time in replacing them. I'm sure Whaley and Rex already know the ice is thin, giving them a playoffs or bust ultimatum will only lead to short sited decision making. We were a .500 team the last two years, other than Mario / Kyle most of the roster is trending up, if they go 10-6 next year and miss out due to tiebreakers, should everyone be canned? Besides, the goal of the franchise shouldn't be "make the playoffs" it should be "build a championship caliber team". I understand at this point the baby step of making the playoffs would be nice, but just showing up to the dance and getting our butts kicked because we "accomplished the goal" is pretty hollow. Oops. I Didnt mean to steal your thunder. Right on sir
3rdand12 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 How long before Vic announces his retirement? right after a lengthy bitching about dropping into coverage and his two gap assignments. perhaps his calls are coming in late?
Agent 91 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Well, first of all, the Bills have tolerated mediocrity and given it 3 years for too long. "Consistency - it's only a virtue if you're not a screwup". The Bills FO *should* feel as though they're playing for their jobs. That said, it's just stupid for an organization to back itself into a corner like this. What if Doug hits on a great draft, brings in just what Rex needs on D, Rex turns around the team discipline and fight and the Bills look to be prepared in a superior way and making in-game adjustments, are in every game scrapping to the end, but they just don't get it done in the final game because two teams from other divisions have super records as the #2? Would it really serve the Bills interest to axe Whaley and Rex in that case? How many "leaks" has Carruci broken and how often has he been right or wrong this year? Apologies to you too
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2016 Author Posted January 5, 2016 Omg now PTI is reporting Vic's original story
3rdand12 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Again I worked in the business for a few years - this usually means you have decided to go with a story based on some hearsay and supposition thinking "it sounds a reasonable enough line in the circumstances" and then the same day something blows up that discredits your supposition and assumptions. I don't know if that has happened here but I know the industry. Vic pieced what he knew together came up with an assumption and then said it was based on information from an unknown source. The Bills should ask for a formal public apology. Vic ain't Bill Beelzebub lol GB
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2016 Author Posted January 5, 2016 Does the BN have Ty Dunne and Vic Carucci working in silos? Isolation chambers?
3rdand12 Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Sounds like a Tyrion Lannister move - one where conflicting stories were told to potential leakers, to identify which one has been internally leaking stuff. If so, cold and awesome move! would be fantastic work from OBD central OPS ! confirm. locate. lock. neutralize. next? Does the BN have Ty Dunne and Vic Carucci working in silos? Isolation chambers? Dunne is watching from the overhang, Vic writhing in Dantes inferno. Tyler has been a saviour to Bills Fans. He has cumulatively written enough compassionate yet honest articles i think he carries the banner for we Fans. Keeps us interested and emotionally attached to the team. pretty impressive actually : ) Does the BN have Ty Dunne and Vic Carucci working in silos? Isolation chambers? hope so. whatever vic has caught from Jerry might be contagious
26CornerBlitz Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 But still the wig of a world class clown! (In all seriousness, I do hope he gets his life together, but....really?) I agree, but it's all up to him. In the meantime, there's this.
NickelCity Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) But still the wig of a world class clown! (In all seriousness, I do hope he gets his life together, but....really?) EDIT: 26 beat me to it...(i posted the same image) Edited January 5, 2016 by NickelCity
Peter Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 On one hand I feel sorry for Vic, on the other: 1) He has changed since he came back - not for the better; 2) He has gotten so many things wrong; 3) He should already have learned that his source is no good (to the extent that there is a source); 4) If he had any familiarity with the Pegulas, he SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ON HIS OWN WITHOUT A SOURCE that this is not the way they operate and his report was directly contrary to the public statement just a few days ago.
apuszczalowski Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 sounds like the report's BS.. but i too agree with the sentiment.. and i believe we only need some tweeking on the D roster to get this thing humming, so Doug and Rex have to get him the right players to take to camp... that's what made the story plausible.. Rex doesn't need Pettine.. he needs to stow his ego, and admit that even he can't fit square pegs into round holes unfortunately it's Rex, he's more likely to just try to find a bigger hammer.....
Saxum Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 I like it. The talent is there. Coach it to the playoffs or GTFO, Rex. Sure the Cleveland Browns approach works so well.
Fan in Chicago Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 Sure the Cleveland Browns approach works so well. The Browns have had a talented roster?
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