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Aside from not really becoming much of a factor for the Bills, I must say I'm impressed. #2 in the world? I'm not counting on him on this team really at all so - I am hoping to root for him at the olympics. The NFL didn't work out but he seems like a good person and obviously a very gifted athlete.

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Aside from not really becoming much of a factor for the Bills, I must say I'm impressed. #2 in the world? I'm not counting on him on this team really at all so - I am hoping to root for him at the olympics. The NFL didn't work out but he seems like a good person and obviously a very gifted athlete.

 

Yolo, I think that 7.9 m jump is #2 in the world *this year*, meaning 2016, and the year is very young. So not that impressive, but..

 

The gold medalist at the 2015 world championships, a Brit, jumped 8.4 m. Goodwin's P.B, jump at the 2012 US Olympic trials was 8.33 m, and he won a silver medal at the 2015 Pan Am games with 8.27 m, which would have put him 2nd at the 2015 Worlds. So at his best, Goodwin is still one of the top jumpers in the world.

 

I still think he needs to make up his mind. Football, or Track. Either or, not Both. For football, he should be refiining his catching abilities a la Larry Fitzgerald and studying how to get off the line and avoid being jammed, possibly bulking up his upper body a bit. For track, he needs to take a step to rise to the top. He's close, but not consistently.

 

The $2M the Bills have paid him, well-invested, ought to keep his sister cared for and allow him to pursue his track career without financial worries.

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I was criticized for saying this before, but IMHO Marquise should do One Thing Well.

 

At a lower level, kids can and should pursue multiple interests. But when one gets to the elite level, one is competing with guys who are all-in, giving 100% 100% of the time. In this day and age, it usually doesn't work out.

 

As it stands, Marquise current level of dedication to football is not-quite-quite. His hands aren't where they need to be, his route running is improved but not all there, he can get jammed on the line too easily. He needs to take a step. He may need to carry a bit more muscle bulk. He may need a training regime in the off-season that is more focused on football.

 

As it stands, Marquise is just short of competitive at the World level on the long jump. Getting injured every football season can not be helping him. And the training to take a step as a WR may not be the training he needs to take a step as an elite long jumper

 

Pick a sport and focus. "All it Takes is All You Got". Or maybe more than you got, but give it all you got and see.

I honestly don't think Goodwin has the frame to carry much more bulk...he has a slight build...

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Bills WR Marquise Goodwin says he will try to qualify for summer Olympics in Rio de Janeiro. If he makes it, he will discuss with team possibility of missing time in training camp.

 

Wonder if he's even back. I forgot about him. And I like the guy.

 

eh, whatever

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As a track coach and former college track athlete, many of my kids are football players and most of my sprinter and jumper teammates were football players as well. The offseason training for football is very similar training to what track workouts are for sprinters, with a bit more focus of lifting. So in theory, it is entirely possible for an NFL player to compete in a few meets at a high level while maintaining his NFL fitness and skill work.

 

That said, the athletic body can only tolerate so much high intensity wear and tear in a calendar year. So, that explains why Flash is broken by the second practice of camp.

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He's done nothing all these years to earn his keep with the team. He should have been cut his second year. He likes the NFL money, but not the work.


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@mikerodak

Bills WR Marquise Goodwin says he will try to qualify for summer Olympics in Rio de Janeiro. If he makes it, he will discuss with team possibility of missing time in training camp.

 

Wonder if he's even back. I forgot about him. And I like the guy.

I do too, YoloinOhiio, he is a speedy-good deep threat. Hope he gets back in there and stays healthy

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Yolo, I think that 7.9 m jump is #2 in the world *this year*, meaning 2016, and the year is very young. So not that impressive, but..

 

The gold medalist at the 2015 world championships, a Brit, jumped 8.4 m. Goodwin's P.B, jump at the 2012 US Olympic trials was 8.33 m, and he won a silver medal at the 2015 Pan Am games with 8.27 m, which would have put him 2nd at the 2015 Worlds. So at his best, Goodwin is still one of the top jumpers in the world.

 

I still think he needs to make up his mind. Football, or Track. Either or, not Both. For football, he should be refiining his catching abilities a la Larry Fitzgerald and studying how to get off the line and avoid being jammed, possibly bulking up his upper body a bit. For track, he needs to take a step to rise to the top. He's close, but not consistently.

 

The $2M the Bills have paid him, well-invested, ought to keep his sister cared for and allow him to pursue his track career without financial worries.

i'm sure you know this, but he's only able to stay in track because the long jump has become such a weak event.

 

it's a long way from the days of powell and lewis.

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i'm sure you know this, but he's only able to stay in track because the long jump has become such a weak event.

 

it's a long way from the days of powell and lewis.

 

It is true. I can't think of another event where the world records are so far back in the past. Any idea why? Better drug tests?

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It is true. I can't think of another event where the world records are so far back in the past. Any idea why? Better drug tests?

less competition, less focus, it's boring.

 

the pole vault is more alluring, for example.

 

anyone i knew in college - which was only 4 that were any decent - that did long jump all came from canada, oddly. from 3 different MAC schools.

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It is true. I can't think of another event where the world records are so far back in the past. Any idea why? Better drug tests?

Biggest reason is that the best jumpers are generally the best sprinters, and few of them attempt that double any more. The training is so focused and specialized it's just really hard to do both. And of course, there is no money/glamour at all in the horizontal jumps compared to sprinting. The best kids give it up early.

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Biggest reason is that the best jumpers are generally the best sprinters, and few of them attempt that double any more. The training is so focused and specialized it's just really hard to do both. And of course, there is no money/glamour at all in the horizontal jumps compared to sprinting. The best kids give it up early.

 

So the training is so specialized now it's hard to both sprint and jump, but Goodwin is trying to play WR and jump?

 

We really SHOULD help him out by cutting him.

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