Pete Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 When in doubt, grab two OLB's! (FanSpeak OTC Mock, FanSpeak Big Board, with trades) 19: R1P19 OLB NOAH SPENCE EASTERN KENTUCKY 61: R2P30 OLB JAYLON SMITH NOTRE DAME 80: R3P17 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH 114: R4P19 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD 123: R4P28 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE 125: R4P30 WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON MISSISSIPPI STATE 144: R5P17 OT JOE HAEG NORTH DAKOTA STATE 155: R5P28 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG 174: R6P17 OT JOE DAHL WASHINGTON STATE 187: R6P30 C GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN 217: R7P28 S KEVIN BYARD MIDDLE TENNESSEE phenomenal draft, although it's pie in the sky. I would be stoked if Spence makes it to 19- but doubt that happens. Jaylon Smith and Vernon Smith both are first rounders IMO
Astrobot Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 phenomenal draft, although it's pie in the sky. I would be stoked if Spence makes it to 19- but doubt that happens. Jaylon Smith and Vernon Smith both are first rounders IMO I have a list of 44 first rounders, if you'd care to see it.
Pete Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 I have a list of 44 first rounders, if you'd care to see it. yes please
Astrobot Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 MY “FIRST ROUNDERS” 1. OT LAREMY TUNSIL 2. DE JOEY BOSA 3. OT RONNIE STANLEY 4. CB JALEN RAMSEY 5. CB ELI APPLE 6. DE DEFOREST BUCKNER 7. QB CARSON WENTZ 8. DE JONATHAN BULLARD 9. OLB MYLES JACK 10. CB VERNON HARGREAVES III 11. DE EMMANUEL OGBAH 12. DT SHELDON RANKINS 13. QB JARED GOFF 14. CB MACKENSIE ALEXANDER 15. WR LAQUON TREADWELL 16. WR BRAXTON MILLER 17. OT JACK CONKLIN 18. ILB REGGIE RAGLAND 19. S DARIAN THOMPSON 20. OLB DARRON LEE 21. DT A'SHAWN ROBINSON 22. QB CONNOR COOK 23. DT ANDREW BILLINGS 24. OLB NOAH SPENCE 25. CB KENDALL FULLER 26. RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT 27. OT TAYLOR DECKER 28. OT SHON COLEMAN 29. QB PAXTON LYNCH 30. OT GERMAIN IFEDI 31. OT JASON SPRIGGS 32. WR WILL FULLER 33. DE SHAQ LAWSON 34. DT JARRAN REED 35. DT ADOLPHUS WASHINGTON 36. WR JOSH DOCTSON 37. DE KEVIN DODD 38. DE SHILIQUE CALHOUN 39. OLB LEONARD FLOYD 40. DE CARL NASSIB 41. DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE 42. DT SHELDON DAY 43. DT VERNON BUTLER 44. RB DERRICK HENRY 45. OLB JAYLON SMITH Not on this list: DT AUSTIN JOHNSON, DE SHAWN OAKMAN
Blokestradamus Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 MY “FIRST ROUNDERS” The reason that I love the draft is that I only agree on about half of them. Makes for a great debate if it's done right.
Astrobot Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 Exactly. Bad news for the Bills, though, even if I'm completely right, we draft 49th.
gonzo1105 Posted February 5, 2016 Posted February 5, 2016 MY FIRST ROUNDERS 1. OT LAREMY TUNSIL 2. DE JOEY BOSA 3. OT RONNIE STANLEY 4. CB JALEN RAMSEY 5. CB ELI APPLE 6. DE DEFOREST BUCKNER 7. QB CARSON WENTZ 8. DE JONATHAN BULLARD 9. OLB MYLES JACK 10. CB VERNON HARGREAVES III 11. DE EMMANUEL OGBAH 12. DT SHELDON RANKINS 13. QB JARED GOFF 14. CB MACKENSIE ALEXANDER 15. WR LAQUON TREADWELL 16. WR BRAXTON MILLER 17. OT JACK CONKLIN 18. ILB REGGIE RAGLAND 19. S DARIAN THOMPSON 20. OLB DARRON LEE 21. DT A'SHAWN ROBINSON 22. QB CONNOR COOK 23. DT ANDREW BILLINGS 24. OLB NOAH SPENCE 25. CB KENDALL FULLER 26. RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT 27. OT TAYLOR DECKER 28. OT SHON COLEMAN 29. QB PAXTON LYNCH 30. OT GERMAIN IFEDI 31. OT JASON SPRIGGS 32. WR WILL FULLER 33. DE SHAQ LAWSON 34. DT JARRAN REED 35. DT ADOLPHUS WASHINGTON 36. WR JOSH DOCTSON 37. DE KEVIN DODD 38. DE SHILIQUE CALHOUN 39. OLB LEONARD FLOYD 40. DE CARL NASSIB 41. DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE 42. DT SHELDON DAY 43. DT VERNON BUTLER 44. RB DERRICK HENRY 45. OLB JAYLON SMITH Not on this list: DT AUSTIN JOHNSON, DE SHAWN OAKMAN Well let's make it easy for you: Non first rounders Derrick Henry RB Alabama Sheldon Day DE Notre Dame Carl Nassib DE Penn State Shalique Calhoun DE Mich State Will Fuller WR Notre Dame German Ifedi OT Texas A&M Shon Coleman OT Auburn Connor Cook QB Michigan State I whittled your list down to 37 without a 2nd thought. There are some that I don't think are first rounders but could see slipping in at 29-31 like Billings, Doctson, Fuller, Spriggs,
Marty McFly Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Exactly. Bad news for the Bills, though, even if I'm completely right, we draft 49th. Who do you think is gonna slip down on draft day and can be a steal for the team that bites.
Blokestradamus Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 I really wanted Josh Perry to be better than he is. Physically, he's built how I like my ILB's but he's not nearly consistent enough or assertive enough to be near the top of my wishlist. Being a little stiff comes with being that size, doesn't stop him being solid in coverage. Needs to take on blockers with more power, needs to shed better, can't get away with lapses in eye discipline with his athletic profile. Someone needs to take Brandon Spikes' nasty streak and give it to Perry. Wouldn't touch him before the 3rd and would prefer Brothers/Martinez before him. I could only hope that some Ryan influence might turn him into the bastard he should be.
YoloinOhio Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) @christrapasso Re-checked film on Myles Jack. Too harsh before. Some rawness vs. run but he's otherworldly athlete for LB. Top 10 talent. Top WLB in class. I am sticking with my previous comparison for Myles Jack: Ryan Shazier & souped-up Jelani Jenkins hybrid. Edited February 11, 2016 by YoloinOhio
Blokestradamus Posted February 12, 2016 Posted February 12, 2016 I need to resist the desire to write about Scooby Wright. It'll end up being a 3000 word thesis on mental acumen in football. I talk about him in theory and I'm quite rational. I watch him and it makes me so angry. Making plays is the physical manifestation of mental acumen. He just lacks the physical skills to consistently do what his mind wants him to. He's not even 'unathletic', just that his athletic ability fails him enough in certain situations (which are unavoidable at the position) that I don't think he'll ever be good enough to be a starter. He's a fascinating case study for evaluation.
Astrobot Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 It's Scooby Wright's injury talking. When you evaluate. go back to pre-injury. If he can do that, he's worth a flier after RD2.
Blokestradamus Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) It's Scooby Wright's injury talking. When you evaluate. go back to pre-injury. If he can do that, he's worth a flier after RD2. I was watching 2014 games. Nothing to do with the injury, he's just not good enough. Backup, 2-down LB that might be able to play ST. A while ago, I said he was the Nick O'Leary of linebackers. I think it's true. Productive in spite of himself but limited future as a pro. Edited February 13, 2016 by Blokestradamus
Astrobot Posted February 14, 2016 Posted February 14, 2016 Scooby Doo-Doo. Anyway, he's going to go to a 4-3 as a WILL LB, so we're safe.
YoloinOhio Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 Myles Jack won't work out at combine @nfldraftscout What I've been told on Myles Jack: He's healthy, he's working out (see my clips from last week), just not ready for Combine testing. Myles Jack is still a top five player in this class. Being smart/safe about testing knee too early.
Astrobot Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Spoiler alert: Bills will snag Jaylon Smith in Friday's mock at DraftTek. Here's how it happens. 1 1 Tennessee Laremy Tunsil LOT Ole Miss 1 2 Cleveland Jared Goff QB California 1 3 San Diego Joey Bosa OLB34 Ohio State 1 4 Dallas Jalen Ramsey CB Florida St 1 5 Jacksonville Vernon Hargreaves III CB Florida 1 6 Baltimore Laquon Treadwell WRF Ole Miss 1 7 San Francisco Ronnie Stanley LOT Notre Dame 1 8 Miami Reggie Ragland ILB Alabama 1 9 Tampa Bay Noah Spence DE43 Ea. Kentucky 1 10 NY Giants DeForest Buckner DE43 Oregon 1 11 Chicago Myles Jack ILB UCLA 1 12 New Orleans A'Shawn Robinson DT34 Alabama 1 13 Philadelphia Carson Wentz QB North Dakota St 1 14 Oakland Shaq Lawson DE43 Clemson 1 15 Los Angeles Paxton Lynch QB Memphis 1 16 Detroit Taylor Decker LOT Ohio State 1 17 Atlanta Emmanuel Ogbah DE43 Oklahoma St 1 18 Indianapolis Leonard Floyd OLB34 Georgia 1 19 Buffalo Jaylon Smith ILB Notre Dame The Bills would have the enviable position of taking Smith (which they could do in a heartbeat), or trading it (6 other teams that haven't drafted yet want ILB before Day 3, and would pay dearly for Smith).
Blokestradamus Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 So, I wrote something on Joshua Perry - http://buffalofambase.org/2016/02/18/2016-nfl-draft-ohio-state-lb-joshua-perry/ Please don't set Buckeye Twitter on me, Yolo.
YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) So, I wrote something on Joshua Perry - http://buffalofambase.org/2016/02/18/2016-nfl-draft-ohio-state-lb-joshua-perry/ Please don't set Buckeye Twitter on me, Yolo. Interstingly Buckeye fans are abuzz that his replacement Dante Booker is apparently better than he is, according to our MLB Raekwon McMillan and Perry himself. So no worries but he's a fan favorite for sure because such a great person. Edited February 18, 2016 by YoloinOhio
Blokestradamus Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Interstingly Buckeye fans are abuzz that his replacement Dante Booker is apparently better than he is, according to our MLB Raekwon McMillan and Perry himself. So no worries but he's a fan favorite for sure because such a great person. I did make the effort to include the Lott trophy nomination. I have listened to you when you've spoke about his character so I thought it was only fair to include it. God knows I give out enough flack to those with character concerns. I don't love him as a player but I still like him. Will be firmly behind Jack, Smith, Ragland, Brothers & Martinez in my ILB rankings but I think there's something to work with there.
YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 I did make the effort to include the Lott trophy nomination. I have listened to you when you've spoke about his character so I thought it was only fair to include it. God knows I give out enough flack to those with character concerns. I don't love him as a player but I still like him. Will be firmly behind Jack, Smith, Ragland, Brothers & Martinez in my ILB rankings but I think there's something to work with there. will be interesting to see where he goes in the draft. Could be a Preston Brown type? Or do you think 3rd is too high?
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