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YoloinOhio Hall of Famer

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Love Cravens as a Will in a 3-4...in fact I think that's probably his best fit in the pros.

 

He's got enough size and speed to match against TEs, and his ball skills seem to be getting better. He acquits himself nicely in the run game for a guy that doesn't crest 220 lbs.

 

I think 49 is a great spot to pick him if you're the Bills, but I also think that the rise of players like Mark Barron, Kwon Alexander, and Deone Bucannon will probably push him into the 30-40 range.

 

Indeed...they also spoke with him at the Collegiate Bowl back in January.

 

Really hope there's some interest there.

cravens is coming in for a visit so they are definitely interested.
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UH linebacker Elandon Roberts boosts stock at Pro Day http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texans/article/UH-linebacker-Elandon-Roberts-boosts-stock-at-Pro-7040273.php

Among the NFL teams Roberts says he has spoken with and have shown interest in him: the Arizona Cardinals, San Diego Chargers, Green Bay Packers, Los Angeles Rams, Oakland Raiders, Buffalo Bills, Baltimore Ravens and New York Jets.

 

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cravens is coming in for a visit so they are definitely interested.

I might be way off-base here, but I think this is a big projection to think he can play 3-4 OLB in the NFL at between 215-225lbs. Unless they are planning to move him back to safety, I don't know what the Bills would do with him. Maybe he can play OLB in a 4-3.

 

Aaron Maybin was considerably taller and probably as athletic, but he couldn't carry the necessary weight. I have concerns that Cravens won't be able to, either (at several inches shorter than Maybin).

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I might be way off-base here, but I think this is a big projection to think he can play 3-4 OLB in the NFL at between 215-225lbs. Unless they are planning to move him back to safety, I don't know what the Bills would do with him. Maybe he can play OLB in a 4-3.

 

Aaron Maybin was considerably taller and probably as athletic, but he couldn't carry the necessary weight. I have concerns that Cravens won't be able to, either (at several inches shorter than Maybin).

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at 215-225? That is quite outside the prototype. Doesn't mean he can't succeed, but where does the inside run D come from?

hes of the newer prototype of hybrid LB/safety. He has the ability to match up against the increasing percentage of sub-packages that offenses are running now. Regardless of size he can fight off blocks (vs just run past them). He compares to Deon Buchanan of Arizons as an example. Denver often uses TJ Ward as a safety/LB hybrid in a 3-4.
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hes of the newer prototype of hybrid LB/safety. He has the ability to match up against the increasing percentage of sub-packages that offenses are running now. Regardless of size he can fight off blocks (vs just run past them). He compares to Deon Buchanan of Arizons as an example. Denver often uses TJ Ward as a safety/LB hybrid in a 3-4.

Arizona (where Buchannon plays) has a 260 lb OLB on one side and a 270+ OLB on the other. I think you have to have some size on the field or teams will run you over on the ground.

 

I am not saying that there isn't a fit in the NFL for Cravens, but if you have him playing ILB, you ought to have some othenBIG LBs. The Cards are playing 5 DL-sized guys on D and also have a HUGE 219lb CB in Patrick Peterson on the field.

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Arizona (where Buchannon plays) has a 260 lb OLB on one side and a 270+ OLB on the other. I think you have to have some size on the field or teams will run you over on the ground.

 

I am not saying that there isn't a fit in the NFL for Cravens, but if you have him playing ILB, you ought to have some othenBIG LBs. The Cards are playing 5 DL-sized guys on D and also have a HUGE 219lb CB in Patrick Peterson on the field.

im not sure if it has to mirror exactly what they do, it is just one player comparison. if the DL features three quality run-stuffing DL and a good LB roaming the middle you can get away with having fewer players in run support and bring in more players to blitz or play coverage. Since we don't know yet exactly what the front 7 will look like in 2016 its hard to say where a player like Cravens fits but he's certainly a big time playmaker.

 

Could potentially match up with Gronk and all the good TEs who we will face this year - Eifert, Ladarius green, Jimmy Graham, Barnidge (yes Barnidge is a stud), every team has one now.

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Thats a really good day, any word on cone/shuttle/position drill results?

 

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Brandt had Elandon Roberts at 4.26 in the short shuttle and 7.23 in the 3-cone. Those marks would have put him 6th and 14th among LBs at the Combine, respectively. Solid, solid numbers.

 

Apparently he also did defensive back drills at his workout in an effort to show scouts that he can indeed make his mark in coverage.

 

Gil still has him rated as an UDFA, but I think he's a day 3 pick for sure.

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Biggest remaining roster hole for all 32 NFL teams

 

Buffalo Bills

Linebacker

It's not even close. After spending to retain left tackle Cordy Glenn and guard Richie Incognito, the Bills didn't have the cap space left to re-sign linebacker Nigel Bradham. Not only do the Bills need to find a replacement for Bradham, but coach Rex Ryan said last week that he needs middle linebacker Preston Brown to "step up" this season. Ryan's defenses have been successful over the years because of linebackers such as Ray Lewis, Bart Scott and David Harris; the Bills don't have anyone like that on their roster. -- Mike Rodak

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/32for32x160330/biggest-remaining-roster-hole-all-32-nfl-teams-free-agency-2016

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Biggest remaining roster hole for all 32 NFL teams

Buffalo Bills

Linebacker

It's not even close. After spending to retain left tackle Cordy Glenn and guard Richie Incognito, the Bills didn't have the cap space left to re-sign linebacker Nigel Bradham. Not only do the Bills need to find a replacement for Bradham, but coach Rex Ryan said last week that he needs middle linebacker Preston Brown to "step up" this season. Ryan's defenses have been successful over the years because of linebackers such as Ray Lewis, Bart Scott and David Harris; the Bills don't have anyone like that on their roster. -- Mike Rodak

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/32for32x160330/biggest-remaining-roster-hole-all-32-nfl-teams-free-agency-2016

Reggie Ragland becomes that guy.

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hes of the newer prototype of hybrid LB/safety. He has the ability to match up against the increasing percentage of sub-packages that offenses are running now. Regardless of size he can fight off blocks (vs just run past them). He compares to Deon Buchanan of Arizons as an example. Denver often uses TJ Ward as a safety/LB hybrid in a 3-4.

Are we signing up for the next Bryan Scott? No thank you.

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