Andrew Son Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Honestly I would love to get a LB in the first, and maybe even another in the 2nd. With this DL class, I think you can get a starter--or at least an immediate contributor--in the 3rd I keep hearing that strategy but I don't like it. Even if it's deep I want the best one, you never know. I might go 2 DL to start if the draft falls that way
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Honestly I would love to get a LB in the first, and maybe even another in the 2nd. With this DL class, I think you can get a starter--or at least an immediate contributor--in the 3rd What LBs would you have in mind at 19 and 49? Spence, Lee, Ragland?
thebandit27 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) What LBs would you have in mind at 19 and 49? Spence, Lee, Ragland? Not a Ragland guy, but yes to the other two at 19 At 49, I'd like Fackrell or the Correa kid from Boise State I keep hearing that strategy but I don't like it. Even if it's deep I want the best one, you never know. I might go 2 DL to start if the draft falls that wayI wouldn't have an issue with DL at 19. I do think they need to find a starting LB in one of the top 2 rounds though Edited February 28, 2016 by thebandit27
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 The antithesis of the Mario attitude. @NFL_CFB .@KimJonesSports reports Joey Bosa will participate in D-line and linebacker drills today. #NFLCombine
gonzo1105 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Thing about Bosa. I'm watching him in the 40 and drills and he doesn't strike me as an elite athlete. Good player but not a great athlete.
Andrew Son Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Thing about Bosa. I'm watching him in the 40 and drills and he doesn't strike me as an elite athlete. Good player but not a great athlete. I think he's one of those guys that are better with pads on
gonzo1105 Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Keep an eye on Alex McAllister when his group comes up. Freak athlete who can go round 2. Tape backs up his athleticism too
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 @NFL_CFB Top 40 (official) times of first group of DLs at #NFLCombine: Correa, 4.69 Judon, 4.87 Calhoun and Cowser, 4.82
Coach Tuesday Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Honestly I would love to get a LB in the first, and maybe even another in the 2nd. With this DL class, I think you can get a starter--or at least an immediate contributor--in the 3rd Exactly. The Bills rarely follow this approach, however.
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 @TheJoeMarino Boise State EDGE Kamalei Correa with a 4.70/1.63. Fun player on tape. Great 10-yard split. Get him on your 1st round radar. @LedyardNFLDraft I think Correa looks good dropping. His tape isn't dominant, but if his hand usage continues to improve, think he can be really solid. Exactly. The Bills rarely follow this approach, however. They're going to take the highest guy on their board and they should do just that IMO.
Andrew Son Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Damn, Lawson ran really fast... I was hoping he wouldn't test well
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Nkemdiche with a 4.87 40! Wow! Ogbah with a 4.65 40 and 1.59 10 yard split!
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Spence not as fast as Von Miller or Mack in the 40 with a 4.80. @nflnetwork Charles Tapper (@OU_Athletics) is 6'3" 271lbs. 4.59u. Woaaaah. #NFLCombine
Coach Tuesday Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 They're going to take the highest guy on their board and they should do just that IMO. Disagree. Billions of dollars have been made on Wall Street thinking the opposite. You have scarce resources. If you can get a quality d-lineman later in the draft, i.e., with a less expensive asset, it's a smarter allocation of your scarce resources.
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Disagree. Billions of dollars have been made on Wall Street thinking the opposite. You have scarce resources. If you can get a quality d-lineman later in the draft, i.e., with a less expensive asset, it's a smarter allocation of your scarce resources. They're not going to take a lower graded guy just because of depth at a particular position in this year's draft. This isn't finance...it's football. Wrong approach IMO. @LedyardNFLDraft All the DL 40 times are in our spreadsheet for your convenience http://thedraftwire.usatoday.com/2016/02/24/2016-nfl-scouting-combine-day-1-measurement-for-ol-rbs-and-specialists/ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19f26Gv0pqNp9E4TuSqBmlyYKcHsQ6NCLssM8cudAp7k/edit#gid=1816409837
Andrew Son Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 They're not going to take a lower graded guy just because of depth at a particular position in this year's draft. This isn't finance...it's football. Wrong approach IMO. @LedyardNFLDraft All the DL 40 times are in our spreadsheet for your convenience http://thedraftwire.usatoday.com/2016/02/24/2016-nfl-scouting-combine-day-1-measurement-for-ol-rbs-and-specialists/ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19f26Gv0pqNp9E4TuSqBmlyYKcHsQ6NCLssM8cudAp7k/edit#gid=1816409837 Agreed 100% Take the best player you can every round
Coach Tuesday Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 They're not going to take a lower graded guy just because of depth at a particular position in this year's draft. This isn't finance...it's football. Wrong approach IMO. @LedyardNFLDraft All the DL 40 times are in our spreadsheet for your convenience http://thedraftwire.usatoday.com/2016/02/24/2016-nfl-scouting-combine-day-1-measurement-for-ol-rbs-and-specialists/ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19f26Gv0pqNp9E4TuSqBmlyYKcHsQ6NCLssM8cudAp7k/edit#gid=1816409837 Have you read Moneyball? Football is exactly where you should be using finance concepts, because the salary cap and limited talent pool cause scarce resources. If you need a LB and a DL, and there are 20 good DL and 5 good LBs, by almost any rational measure you take the LB first and the DL second. That way you can get a good LB and a good DL. Doing the reverse will most likely get you a weak LB.
Andrew Son Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Have you read Moneyball? Football is exactly where you should be using finance concepts, because the salary cap and limited talent pool cause scarce resources. If you need a LB and a DL, and there are 20 good DL and 5 good LBs, by almost any rational measure you take the LB first and the DL second. That way you can get a good LB and a good DL. Doing the reverse will most likely get you a weak LB. Problem is there might be a couple of those 20 that become truly special
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Have you read Moneyball? Football is exactly where you should be using finance concepts, because the salary cap and limited talent pool cause scarce resources. If you need a LB and a DL, and there are 20 good DL and 5 good LBs, by almost any rational measure you take the LB first and the DL second. That way you can get a good LB and a good DL. Doing the reverse will most likely get you a weak LB. If there are 18 players in the draft with actual 1st round grades as the experts are saying and the Bills have the opportunity to get one of them, they better take the guy. End of story. @nflnetwork Top D-Line Official 40s: Charles Tapper, 4.59 Emmanuel Ogbah, 4.63 Kamalei Correa, 4.69 Shaq Lawson, 4.70 Matthew Judon, 4.73 #NFLCombine
26CornerBlitz Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 @NFL_CFB Top 3-cone drills for DLs at #NFLCombine: GOLD: James Cowser, 6.80 SILVER: Joey Bosa, 6.89 BRONZE: Shilique Calhoun, 6.97 @JoshNorris Josh Norris Retweeted CollegeFootball 24/7 Bosa's 6.89 puts him in the top 11 of DL since 2006 @TyDunne So @Takeflightchuck promised to open eyes in Indy and he wasn't kidding. Oklahoma DE ran a 4.59 and had 34-inch vert. #Bills met with him. Told Tapper he'd need to drop in coverage with Bills: "I would love to drop into coverage. I’d love to show people how athletic I am." Ole Miss DE Robert Nkemdiche is a #Bills option at 19. One scout told @BobMcGinn "Holy (expletive), buyer beware on this one." NFL Combine: Five takeaways from defensive line drills Though top-rated prospect Joey Bosa called his 4.86-second time in the 40-yard dash disappointing, the highly regarded defensive line group as a whole certainly lived up to its billing Saturday, with stars like Oklahoma State's Emmanuel Ogbah and Mississippi's Robert Nkemdiche wowing and small schoolers Robert Blair (Appalachian State), Matt Judon (Grand Valley State) and Javon Hargrave (South Carolina State) boosting their cause, as well. @PFF_Steve Top takeaways from DLine workouts: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/02/28/draft-top-4-takeaways-from-combine-d-line-workouts/ Nkemdiche, Spence dropping in eyes of evaluatorsNFL Network's Kimberly Jones reports on the status of a slew of pass rushing prospects, including how a pair of top pass rushers failed to impress evaluators with their combine performances.
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