YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) Bad, bad, bad situation in Indy and he's not going to be there next year. http://www.stampedeblue.com/2015/12/31/10695656/report-chuck-pagano-ryan-grigsons-relationship-100-times-worse-than-colts-play-on-field?utm_campaign=stampedeblue&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter I don't "expect" Rex to fire Dennis Thurman but have heard media speculate he could make a change there to show he did something. Maybe demote him. Pagano and Rex coached together in Baltimore. Just a thought. Edited December 31, 2015 by YoloinOhio
H2o Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Bad, bad, bad situation in Indy and he's not going to be there next year. http://www.stampedeblue.com/2015/12/31/10695656/report-chuck-pagano-ryan-grigsons-relationship-100-times-worse-than-colts-play-on-field?utm_campaign=stampedeblue&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter I don't "expect" Rex to fire Dennis Thurman but have heard media speculate he could make a change there to show he did something. Maybe demote him. Pagano and Rex coached together in Baltimore. Just a thought. He would certainly be an upgrade over Thurman. Hell, just about anyone would.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Rather have Chuck Norris. Seriously though, I would be shocked if Thurman went anywhere (even within the organization) after only one year. Firing or demoting Rex's DC would be an insult to the collective intelligence of this fan base. I do like Pagano though.
Dr. Who Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 I like Pagano as a person. Have no idea what kind of coach he would be, but could it be any worse than what we've got now? Hopefully the communication issues get straightened out, whoever is the putative DC.
YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2015 Author Posted December 31, 2015 I think Pagano is an excellent coach
Coach Tuesday Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 It just wouldn't make sense for anyone. Chuck Pagano already has a good reputation as a defensive coach, so what good what it do for him to come in and run Rex's defense? Rex will get the credit, not Chuck. And from Rex's standpoint, why would he hire someone who could be viewed as a threat to take his job if things falter?
YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2015 Author Posted December 31, 2015 It just wouldn't make sense for anyone. Chuck Pagano already has a good reputation as a defensive coach, so what good what it do for him to come in and run Rex's defense? Rex will get the credit, not Chuck. And from Rex's standpoint, why would he hire someone who could be viewed as a threat to take his job if things falter?good points, good sir. Guess I really like Pagano, and saw the connections
H2o Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 It just wouldn't make sense for anyone. Chuck Pagano already has a good reputation as a defensive coach, so what good what it do for him to come in and run Rex's defense? Rex will get the credit, not Chuck. And from Rex's standpoint, why would he hire someone who could be viewed as a threat to take his job if things falter? After the year this defense has had, if Pagano came in, and then this defense turned into a top 10/top 5 unit again? Yes, I believe he would get the credit.
Mr. WEO Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 I think Pagano is an excellent coach Head coach?? Why? He was outcoached by his backup---and still is.
machine gun kelly Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Pagano doesn't choose the players he's received from mgmt in free agency and the draft although has influence, and the Colts did a poor job of infusing more talent each year since he arrived in Indy. He prabably would be an upgrade at the position, and Pettine could be his competition. With the heat Rex has faced, i can definitely see a fall guy in Thurmon. He saves face, and brings in a former head coach who was a sound DC in either one of these guys. I know Pettine is supposedly safe, but we'll see after this week. Manziel is now out so it could be ugly after this weekend.
Mr. WEO Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Pagano doesn't choose the players he's received from mgmt in free agency and the draft although has influence, and the Colts did a poor job of infusing more talent each year since he arrived in Indy. He prabably would be an upgrade at the position, and Pettine could be his competition. With the heat Rex has faced, i can definitely see a fall guy in Thurmon. He saves face, and brings in a former head coach who was a sound DC in either one of these guys. I know Pettine is supposedly safe, but we'll see after this week. Manziel is now out so it could be ugly after this weekend. You think Rex is going to let his Thurman go? The Browns aren't letting Pettine go after they just said he stays. Even the Browns wouldn't do that.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 This is an interesting idea. I bet it happens too. Maybe he comes in in a Lebeau-like consultant role. I doubt he is going to have a ton of other options out there.
BackInDaDay Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 it would be cheaper for the Bills to invest in getting Rex ventriloquist lessons, and make him a sock puppet. since Ryan is gonna tear it down and build it back up - his way - i don't see the point in canning Thurman.. any DC under Rex must be satisfied with playing more of a subordinate role than they would on any other staff. that doesn't very attractive for guys with their own ideas.
Saint Doug Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 This is an interesting idea. I bet it happens too. Maybe he comes in in a Lebeau-like consultant role. I doubt he is going to have a ton of other options out there. Why would Rex need a consultant?
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Bad, bad, bad situation in Indy and he's not going to be there next year. http://www.stampedeblue.com/2015/12/31/10695656/report-chuck-pagano-ryan-grigsons-relationship-100-times-worse-than-colts-play-on-field?utm_campaign=stampedeblue&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter I don't "expect" Rex to fire Dennis Thurman but have heard media speculate he could make a change there to show he did something. Maybe demote him. Pagano and Rex coached together in Baltimore. Just a thought. As long as Rex is here he is the DC and no DC with any cred will come here. Pagano doesn't choose the players he's received from mgmt in free agency and the draft although has influence, and the Colts did a poor job of infusing more talent each year since he arrived in Indy. He prabably would be an upgrade at the position, and Pettine could be his competition. With the heat Rex has faced, i can definitely see a fall guy in Thurmon. He saves face, and brings in a former head coach who was a sound DC in either one of these guys. I know Pettine is supposedly safe, but we'll see after this week. Manziel is now out so it could be ugly after this weekend. Did he get cut?
Best Player Available Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 it would be cheaper for the Bills to invest in getting Rex ventriloquist lessons, and make him a sock puppet. since Ryan is gonna tear it down and build it back up - his way - i don't see the point in canning Thurman.. any DC under Rex must be satisfied with playing more of a subordinate role than they would on any other staff. that doesn't very attractive for guys with their own ideas. Hmmmmmmm, interesting observations. Rex,being from the Ryan tree of defensive "minds" most likely Would not offer much independent thought from any new DC.
K D Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) Pagano is a pushover. This defense needs someone to light a fire under their butts and run a 4-3. Someone like Schwartz! Edited December 31, 2015 by kdiggz
YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2015 Author Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) Pagano is a pushover. This defense needs someone to light a fire under their butts and run a 4-3. Someone like Schwartz!the reason I mentioned Pagano is he runs a similar D which is a 3-4 hybrid. Schwartz is not a possibility - sorry. Edited December 31, 2015 by YoloinOhio
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Why would Rex need a consultant? Could be a bunch of reasons why it makes sense. Just getting another experienced voice in the room for game planning might make sense.
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