YoloinOhio Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) Adios Farmer, aka worst NFL GM ever @marykaycabot Report: #Browns expect to keep Mike Pettine and fire Ray Farmer, team sources say http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/12/report_cleveland_browns_expect.html Pettine has lost 13 of his last 17 games Edited January 5, 2016 by YoloinOhio
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 @MaryKayCabot Report: #Browns expect to keep Mike Pettine and fire Ray Farmer, team sources say http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/12/report_cleveland_browns_expect.html
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I actually think Pettine is a decent coach. The Browns just have no talent.
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Let the Money Team era begin. Smart move. Then they can draft a real qb with the 1st overall pick next year.
BarleyNY Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Keeping Pettine and dumping Farmer is actually a smart way to go. Farmer's been awful.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Damn. I was kind of hoping we would be able to snag him to replace Thurmond.
filthymcnasty08 Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) They are probably coming to the conclusion that they cannot attract any kind of quality HC at this stage with this hiring/firing record since the 'Cheat: [22] 10 Bill Belichick 1991–1995 80 36 44 0 .450 2 1 1 .500 [23] — [N 3]1996–1998 11 Chris Palmer* 1999–2000 32 5 27 0 .156 — — — — [24] 12 Butch Davis* 2001–2004 58 24 34 0 .414 1 0 1 .000 [25] 13 Terry Robiskie (interim) 2004 6 1 5 0 .167 — — — — [26] 14 Romeo Crennel 2005–2008 64 24 40 0 .375 — — — — [27] 15 Eric Mangini 2009–2010 32 10 22 0 .313 — — — — [28] 16 Pat Shurmur* 2011–2012 32 9 23 0 .281 — — — — [29] 17 Rob Chudzinski* 2013 16 4 12 0 .250 — — — — [30] 18 Mike Pettine* 2014–2015 30 10 20 0 .333 — — — — Edited December 28, 2015 by filthymcnasty08
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Damn. I was kind of hoping we would be able to snag him to replace Thurmond. Do you honestly think Rex is getting rid of Thurman? Even if he did it wouldn't matter one bit as Rex is the designer, strategist, and primary play caller for the D.
Big C Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Good for Pettine. Farmer has done a horrible job and it's nice that they are giving him another opportunity.
Bill from NYC Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) Damn. I was kind of hoping we would be able to snag him to replace Thurmond.I was hoping we would sign him to replace Ryan. Edited December 28, 2015 by Bill from NYC
machine gun kelly Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I'm happy for him, and believe it is the right call. They need continuity there, and he deserves at least two more years to get it turned around. One example of a good coach who had an owner be very patient is Cincy with Marvin Lewis. He had a lot of bad years, but with a good front office eventually provided enough talent to ahve a team make the playoffs 5 years with this one in a row. I don't care if they lost as Buffalo fans would trade that record with ours.
Maddog69 Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I don't like the idea of burdening a new GM with a holdover head coach. Pettine's status should be up in the air until a GM is found. Find the right GM and let him pick the coach. Otherwise you have the same garbage situation we have here where the owner picked the coach and has him reporting directly to the owner. The GM should select the coach he wants and should be able to fire him at his discretion.
Felonious Monk Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 The Browns just have no talent. The only time I think of the Browns is when I see highlights of Gary Barnidge. We've seen heaps of "good" TEs excel through the years because of their elite quarterback -- team's other spectacular receivers -- strong running game -- or combination of the three. Then those TEs get rich contracts with other teams and stink up the joint (Julius Thomas, Jimmy Graham being the most recent examples). I genuinely can't recall a TE who has had this much success playing with dud QBs, WRs and RBs. He's been almost matchup-proof this year and for whatever reason, it bugs me that there's no logical reason why.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I hope for Pettine's sake the next GM finds him a real QB to work with because they have nothing to develop for the long term on the current roster. @PFF Matt Ryan had the highest accuracy percentage this weekend at 93.1% (23 for 30, four drops, one throwaway). Johnny Manziel last at 46.4%
Manther Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I don't like the idea of burdening a new GM with a holdover head coach. Pettine's status should be up in the air until a GM is found. Find the right GM and let him pick the coach. Otherwise you have the same garbage situation we have here where the owner picked the coach and has him reporting directly to the owner. The GM should select the coach he wants and should be able to fire him at his discretion. Agreed 100%!
Saint Doug Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I don't like the idea of burdening a new GM with a holdover head coach. Pettine's status should be up in the air until a GM is found. Find the right GM and let him pick the coach. Otherwise you have the same garbage situation we have here where the owner picked the coach and has him reporting directly to the owner. The GM should select the coach he wants and should be able to fire him at his discretion. Keeping Pettine and firing the GM makes little sense. Pettine will end up being a lame duck just waiting to get fired so the new GM can hire his own coach. That, or the GM they hire will have little power over the coach of his team. Sort of like what we have here.
Felonious Monk Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Adios Farmer, aka worst NFL GM ever Worse than Kotite?
Best Player Available Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Not a brownie fan. But good for Pettine.
GunnerBill Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Keeping Pettine and dumping Farmer is actually a smart way to go. Farmer's been awful. I agree it would be a very un-Browns smart move. Now let him cut all ties with Johnny Football and watch the Browns improve.
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