26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Great team? No. Good team? Yes. They can compete with any team in the playoffs as long as Fitzy keeps it up. I don't think he will, but they are as good as any team right now with the way he has played. 1...Count it 1 quality win all season. They're good....Yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 1...Count it 1 quality win all season. They're good....Yeah! How many did the Bills have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 These aren't the 2014 Jets, and any one insisting that Rex's departure allowed this team to succeed is making **** up to criticize our current coach. Adding Fitz/Gailey/Marshal and the Jets went from 28th in scoring to 10th. Fitz has now tied a franchise record for passing TD's. Also, anyone saying Rex was the cause for that team deteriorating conveniently forget that they had nobody--and I mean nobody--playing CB last year. Their front seven was tough as nails last year and is again this year. Their secondary, however, with the additions of Cromaterie and Revis is tremendously better. All that said, the Jets squeaked out wins over the Giants (thanks to some classic NYG late-game clock management) and the Cowboys. They've won close games when they didn't last year. Last year they were 2-7 in one score games. This year they're 4-4. The Jets have had a very fortunate season in a year when the Bills have been terribly unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 These aren't the 2014 Jets, and any one insisting that Rex's departure allowed this team to succeed is making **** up to criticize our current coach. Adding Fitz/Gailey/Marshal and the Jets went from 28th in scoring to 10th. Fitz has now tied a franchise record for passing TD's. Also, anyone saying Rex was the cause for that team deteriorating conveniently forget that they had nobody--and I mean nobody--playing CB last year. Their front seven was tough as nails last year and is again this year. Their secondary, however, with the additions of Cromaterie and Revis is tremendously better. All that said, the Jets squeaked out wins over the Giants (thanks to some classic NYG late-game clock management) and the Cowboys. They've won close games when they didn't last year. Last year they were 2-7 in one score games. This year they're 4-4. The Jets have had a very fortunate season in a year when the Bills have been terribly unlucky. They're so good that they lost to the lousy Buffalo Bills....at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Yes, the Jets may make the playoffs but in large part were helped by their 4th place schedule versus the Bills 2nd place schedule. Doesn't make a difference, you say? Well, consider the Jets got to play the Browns and the Raiders while the Bills played the Bengals and the Chiefs. Jets played teams with a combined 10-20 record while the Bills played teams with a 21-8 record, both of which will likely be heading to the playoffs. If you think that doesn't make a difference, you are crazy. Granted, the Jets did a better job against the 8 easy games from the AFC South/NFC East(helped by an idiotic decision by Tom Coughlin which likely cost his team the game), going 6-2 versus the Bills, who went 4-4, but we also beat the Jets head to head once and I wouldn't be surprised if we beat them again next Sunday. This great disparity people think there is between the Jets and the Bills simply doesn't exist, and in large part is reflected in their record because of playing a 4th place schedule versus a 2nd place schedule AND the fact they have been one of the healthiest teams in the NFL this year. In fact, in some advanced metrics sites, such as this one: http://sagarin.com/sports/nflsend.htm the Jets have played the easiest schedule in the NFL. Notice the Bills and Jets are ranked right below each other even though the Jets have a 3 game advantage in the win column. So, while the Jets may make the playoffs this year, they were helped greatly by their schedule, and lack of key injuries. People say all that matters is wins and losses, and that is true, but who you get to play and how many players you have injured sure play a large role in determining your wins and losses as well... The difference between the Bills and Jets is coaching! That is the difference in wins and losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 They're so good that they lost to the lousy Buffalo Bills....at home. If each NFL is allotted a certain amount of luck in any given season, NYJ got the Bills' share this year. But yeah, I love the idea that anything other than the head to head matchup tells you which is the better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 The Jets formulated and executed a very sound strategy this offseason: 1) Hire a coach who could make the most out of the team's core asset (the defense), without too much tinkering. 2) Hire a veteran offensive coordinator and pair him with a veteran QB. 3) Surround that veteran QB with tall receiving options, a friendly passing game, and a solid offensive line. 4) Add a few key pieces to the defense and offense. The Jets' organization is running smoothly right now with everyone on the same page, and they're soundly executing the strategic plan they came up with. Contrast that with the Bills... where to begin. Agreed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 The difference between the Bills and Jets is coaching! That is the difference in wins and losses. Please be more specific. On what the Jets have done from a coaching standpoint, on what the Bills should have done, specifically to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 No! They're a great team! Look out NFL, here come the mighty NYJ!! Fear the Great Gangreen!!! Other than maybe the Cardinals and Panthers and the Patriots (if they can get some WR back), how many teams in the NFL going to the playoffs are really that much more dangerous than the Jets (if they make it)? The Chiefs? Nope Broncos? Not really Skins? Nope Packers? Not really Hawks? Maybe Vikings? Not really Texans? Nope Bengals? Not really Steelers? Maybe, but as of now they're not even in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 We are loaded with talent but it's been wasted. That's why I'm so down on Rex.Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 They're so good that they lost to the lousy Buffalo Bills....at home. And the Steelers (who you probably think are worlds better than the Jets) lose to the Ravens in basically a must-win game with a QB who was on the team barely 1 week. You're making yourself look kinda silly man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 14 of the 16 opponents are the same and people are trying to hang their hats on the 'easy schedule' excuse? Pathetic.Yep!! So, I guess we are all set for 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 And the Steelers (who you probably think are worlds better than the Jets) lose to the Ravens in basically a must-win game with a QB who was on the team barely 1 week. You're making yourself look kinda silly man The Steelers got SWEPT by the Ravens. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Please be more specific. On what the Jets have done from a coaching standpoint, on what the Bills should have done, specifically to win. Every aspect of coaching and preparation possible and it shows most Sundays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Every aspect of coaching and preparation possible and it shows most Sundays. Every? Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 And the Steelers (who you probably think are worlds better than the Jets) lose to the Ravens in basically a must-win game with a QB who was on the team barely 1 week. You're making yourself look kinda silly man OK. Whatever you say. Good fortune and schedule have no role in a team's Win Loss record in the NFL. The Jets are a dominant Super Bowl contender led by a MVP QB. Gotcha chief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 There is no point. You can't convince him. That's right because I've watched enough of their games this season against mediocre opponents to know there's nothing that special or good about the NYJ aside from their defense that is very good. I have seen ARZ, CAR, SEA, PIT, NE, DEN, and CIN play football at a high level this season. The NYJ.....Nope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir andrew Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 The Jets formulated and executed a very sound strategy this offseason: 1) Hire a coach who could make the most out of the team's core asset (the defense), without too much tinkering. 2) Hire a veteran offensive coordinator and pair him with a veteran QB. 3) Surround that veteran QB with tall receiving options, a friendly passing game, and a solid offensive line. 4) Add a few key pieces to the defense and offense. The Jets' organization is running smoothly right now with everyone on the same page, and they're soundly executing the strategic plan they came up with. Contrast that with the Bills... where to begin. 5. Have IK break starting QB's nose so veteran QB gets a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) There is no point. You can't convince him. So Baltimore is better then Pittsburgh? Pittsburgh has lost 5 of their last 6 to Baltimore. Same HC's in each of those matchups. What's your point? Edited December 29, 2015 by The Big Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Gotta love the never ending optimism of the homers on this site. No objectivity here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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