Keukasmallies Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 SoS Kerry describes our latest lateral arabesque to avoid calling Iran to task over "stretches" in our relationship with that totalitarian state. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/12/22/republicans-blast-kerry-for-suggesting-iran-could-skirt-new-visa-rules.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Bureaucratic squabble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Bureaucratic squabble The text of Kerry's response: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It's still frightening that millions of people voted for that milquetoast to be POTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It's still frightening that millions of people voted for that milquetoast to be POTUS. Considering the person he ran against, I'm surprised he didn't get more votes. But those same voters are Trump's backers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Considering the person he ran against, I'm surprised he didn't get more votes. But those same voters are Trump's backers Those two sentences have nothing to do with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Those two sentences have nothing to do with each other. Same people that voted for Bush are supporting Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Same people that voted for Bush are supporting Trump And what the hell does that have to do with Obama's election in 2008? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 And what the hell does that have to do with Obama's election in 2008? I have no idea what you are talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I have no idea what you are talking about Now you know how most people feel when they read your drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I have no idea what you are talking about What does the number of votes Obama got in 2008 have to do with who supports Trump today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 What does the number of votes Obama got in 2008 have to do with who supports Trump today? Pretty sure we were talking about Kerry in 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Kerry to Iran: Oh, of course those new visa restrictions wouldn’t apply to you, my friends!It seems like only yesterday that the Washington Post was calling the Obama administration weak in their dealings with Iran. (Oh, wait… it actually was yesterday.) But the empire had a chance to strike back when Iran complained about new visa waiver restrictions included in recently passed legislation. Those rules included cutting off visa waivers for people who had recently been in dangerous countries… including Iran. Thankfully, their recent provocations gave Kerry the ideal opportunity to face them down and let them know in no uncertain terms that we weren’t going to be putting up with their nonsense or making exceptions to the rules just for them. Naw… I’m just kidding. He folded like a cheap suit. Kerry goes on to assure the Iranians that the White House has, “a number of potential tools available to us.” These include multiple entry business visas good for ten years and, of course, the back door built into the reform legislation which gives the Secretary of State the right to simply wave the visa requirements on his own authority if he finds that such a move is in the “law enforcement or national security interests of the United States.” I think we’re seeing the next set of consequences from the Iran nuclear deal which so many conservatives warned of but which were shrugged off by the Obama administration as partisan rhetoric. Once the deal was in place, the White House would be so desperate to keep it intact that they would go to great lengths to avoid having to admit that it was a completely failed negotiation. As it turns out, it now looks like we’ll begin conceding on virtually every point of contention. Iran knows that they can pull out of this at any time they like and, frankly, they probably had no intention of honoring it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Pretty sure we were talking about Kerry in 2004 Ha! I read KD's mention of Milquetoast and I automatically thought Obama. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Ha! I read KD's mention of Milquetoast and I automatically thought Obama. Carry on. So, we have identified the problem as you thinking.... Sorry, could not resist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 So, we have identified the problem as you thinking.... Sorry, could not resist Well it's a understandable mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I have no idea what you are talking about You should get this etched on your tombstone. Here lies gatorman. He had no idea what you were talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Obama's Fire Sale Foreign Policy: A farewell binge of international agreements.by Claudia Rosett President Obama's final stretch in office -- filled, as he promised, with "interesting stuff" -- has become an extravaganza of "historic" foreign-policy deals, most of them distinguished for making common cause with despotic regimes that are less than friendly toward the United States: -- The embrace of Cuba. -- The Iran nuclear deal. -- The Paris climate agreement. -- And, enshrined just this past Friday as United Nations Security Council Resolution 2254, a grand plan in which, under the United Nations umbrella, the U.S., Russia, Iran and sundry others will all come together to produce peace and democracy by June, 2017, in Syria. On Friday. Obama congratulated himself for such feats, telling reporters at his end-of-year press conference: "we have shown what is possible when America leads." {snip} But what did it take to produce this festival of unanimity? How does an American president arrive at all these deals, in grand concert with the regimes of Cuba, Iran, China, Russia, or, in the climate case, virtually every polity on the planet? The answer is simple. You trade away U.S. interests at bargain-sale prices. You hold a fire sale on real U.S. global leadership. You squander U.S. credibility and security, offering concessions at such deep discounts that even Vladimir Putin and Ayatollah Khamenei cannot resist. You dismantle the principles and strategies that have long protected America and its allies, and you toss whatever remains into a global bargain bin. Deals for all! In these deals you either impose no serious conditions, or you demand no real compliance with those you impose. You sweeten the pot with diplomatic concessions and with money -- in some cases, lots of money. You gloss over dangerous realities. You ignore transgressions. You promise truckloads of pie-in-the-sky -- leaving it to your successor to cope with the grim or even catastrophic realities that are compounding with no remedy in sight. In sum, on the way out of the White House, you hold a fire sale, cashing in whatever remains of U.S. credibility and might for a farewell binge of international agreements. And as hostile regimes queue to get a piece of this action, you publicly celebrate the accomplishment of bringing the world together "as one." More at the link: https://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/obamas-fire-sale-foreign-policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Pretty sure we were talking about Kerry in 2004 So you think Kerry is milquetoast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Obama's Fire Sale Foreign Policy: A farewell binge of international agreements. by Claudia Rosett President Obama's final stretch in office -- filled, as he promised, with "interesting stuff" -- has become an extravaganza of "historic" foreign-policy deals, most of them distinguished for making common cause with despotic regimes that are less than friendly toward the United States: -- The embrace of Cuba. -- The Iran nuclear deal. -- The Paris climate agreement. -- And, enshrined just this past Friday as United Nations Security Council Resolution 2254, a grand plan in which, under the United Nations umbrella, the U.S., Russia, Iran and sundry others will all come together to produce peace and democracy by June, 2017, in Syria. On Friday. Obama congratulated himself for such feats, telling reporters at his end-of-year press conference: "we have shown what is possible when America leads." {snip} But what did it take to produce this festival of unanimity? How does an American president arrive at all these deals, in grand concert with the regimes of Cuba, Iran, China, Russia, or, in the climate case, virtually every polity on the planet? The answer is simple. You trade away U.S. interests at bargain-sale prices. You hold a fire sale on real U.S. global leadership. You squander U.S. credibility and security, offering concessions at such deep discounts that even Vladimir Putin and Ayatollah Khamenei cannot resist. You dismantle the principles and strategies that have long protected America and its allies, and you toss whatever remains into a global bargain bin. Deals for all! In these deals you either impose no serious conditions, or you demand no real compliance with those you impose. You sweeten the pot with diplomatic concessions and with money -- in some cases, lots of money. You gloss over dangerous realities. You ignore transgressions. You promise truckloads of pie-in-the-sky -- leaving it to your successor to cope with the grim or even catastrophic realities that are compounding with no remedy in sight. In sum, on the way out of the White House, you hold a fire sale, cashing in whatever remains of U.S. credibility and might for a farewell binge of international agreements. And as hostile regimes queue to get a piece of this action, you publicly celebrate the accomplishment of bringing the world together "as one." More at the link: https://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/obamas-fire-sale-foreign-policy Obama has come out and said to all of our adversaries that for the sake of an agreement he will bend over for them, and it would be nice if they used KY, but he'll understand if they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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