Jerry Jabber Posted December 21, 2015 Author Posted December 21, 2015 Not unusual really. Green Bay spends a 2nd round pick on a WR every single year...that's how they end up with Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Davante Adams, etc. Great point. GB has an elite QB in Rodgers and has given him plenty of weapons to throw to. The Bills need to do the same as just having 1 very good WR is not going to cut it as teams are going to double-team that WR, as we've seen with Watkins, plus injuries (Harvin).
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 I would like to not spend any money or picks on basically complimentary players. We should only be targeting vet minimum guys.
Jerry Jabber Posted December 21, 2015 Author Posted December 21, 2015 Sammy cost 2 #1's, and is worth it IMO. Woods was a second rounder, and is good. Goodwin I believe was a 3rd round. Who is the other 3rd and 4th round WR selections you refer to? Easley is the 4th rounder
Freddie's Dead Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 I had to check and see if that was his real name "De'Runnya." I wasn't sure if that was a Key & Peele skit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gODZzSOelss The names parents give their kids these days. I'm surprised we haven't seen a "Loshon Bottles" yet. Awesome. I thought you were going to reference this K&P sketch: Jayqwellin? Do you mean Jacqueline? So that's how it's gonna be?
26CornerBlitz Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Hard to argue this point since the team has Sammy and no one else as a consistent threat.
Jerry Jabber Posted December 21, 2015 Author Posted December 21, 2015 Awesome. I thought you were going to reference this K&P sketch: Jayqwellin? Do you mean Jacqueline? So that's how it's gonna be? LMAO!! That skit was awesome as well! I like the sequel to that one as well. "Do you want to go to go war Blah-Kay?" "Go to O'Shaq-Hennessy's office!!!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDp-ABzpRX8
quinnearlysghost88 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 someone like, say, ted ginn jr or devin funchess or lafell or marvin jones? my point is it's the system and coaching first, and once you create that, you're able to maximize your players' potential.
thebandit27 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Sammy cost 2 #1's, and is worth it IMO. Woods was a second rounder, and is good. Goodwin I believe was a 3rd round. Who is the other 3rd and 4th round WR selections you refer to? I'm assuming he means Graham and Easley
vincec Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 I wouldn't say that needing one #2 player constitutes needing an overhaul. I agree that it would be nice though.
Jerry Jabber Posted December 21, 2015 Author Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) I wouldn't say that needing one #2 player constitutes needing an overhaul. I agree that it would be nice though. The Bills need more than just a #2 WR. At minimum, a #2 WR, a slot WR and a good #2 TE. IMO, Goodwin and Hogan wouldn't be on most NFL rosters. Edited December 21, 2015 by Jerry Jabber
vincec Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 The Bills need more than just a #2 WR. At minimum, a #2 WR, a slot WR and a good #2 TE. IMO, Goodwin and Hogan wouldn't be on most NFL rosters. I don't agree. Watkins, #2 receiver, Woods and Hogan are a solid 1-4. Clay is solid. What do you want all starts at every position? Better off spending the resources on OL.
8-8 Forever? Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Hard to argue this point since the team has Sammy and no one else as a consistent threat. if either Harvin or Goodwin stay on the field , this thread doesn't even happen. Injuries took the #2 WR position away for pretty much the entire season. Can't lose both guys playing the same spot and expect the #3 to be any good. Both burners gone by week 4. thats tough.
Jerry Jabber Posted December 21, 2015 Author Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) I don't agree. Watkins, #2 receiver, Woods and Hogan are a solid 1-4. Clay is solid. What do you want all starts at every position? Better off spending the resources on OL. Woods is a good #3 or #4. As I said earlier in the thread, he is a good blocker, but he is too inconsistent as he drops passes, seems to run the wrong routes and trips/dives over himself. Hogan is too inconsistent and is slow, how many times have we've seen him catch the ball and need a few yards to make a first down and instead of going straight ahead, he'll try to slant and he'll come up short? Sorry, on a good NFL team, he's not a #3 or #4 WR. I didn't say anything about Clay, I'm talking about having a good TE behind him. So far, our TE's behind Clay have either been getting hurt or have been inconsistent. There are reasons why it's a great idea to have at least three good WR's: double-teams to the #1 WR and injuries. If your #1 or #2 WR gets injured and you don't have a good #3, then all defenses have to do is double team your starting WR, and there goes your passing game. This Bills season is a classic example of that. Edited December 21, 2015 by Jerry Jabber
BobbyC81 Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 I had to check and see if that was his real name "De'Runnya." I wasn't sure if that was a Key & Peele skit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gODZzSOelss The names parents give their kids these days. I'm surprised we haven't seen a "Loshon Bottles" yet. Don't forget D'Brickshaw and Barkevious (did they come up with that name while the dog was barking?)
BarleyNY Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 The Bills need not only an outside WR who is a deep threat (and preferably tall enough to be a Red Zone threat), but also a quality slot WR. Watkins needs another threat opposite him to keep defenses from playing a safety over him. The Bills need to put defenses in a position where they have to pick their poison and they can't do that with their current stable of WRs. They took a big chance on Harvin because a second deep threat was so important. Thankfully he won't be back, but maybe they can find a more reliable player.
djp14150 Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Harvin if healthy brings the speed and being a deep threat. Buffalo also has Clay as A TE Their RBs can catch the ball. Woods isn't an issue.
3rdand12 Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 if either Harvin or Goodwin stay on the field , this thread doesn't even happen. Injuries took the #2 WR position away for pretty much the entire season. Can't lose both guys playing the same spot and expect the #3 to be any good. Both burners gone by week 4. thats tough. no doubt
QB Bills Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 You can't have all star players at every position. Woods is a good receiver. More than adequate as a #2. He's been off the past few games, but the guy is tough and talented. The receivers are fine. We just don't have a QB that spreads the ball around. Not even blaming Tyrod for that. Part of that is scheme, part is his inexperience. I'd rather the Bills spend resources (draft picks and/or money) on other positions of need.
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Don't forget D'Brickshaw and Barkevious (did they come up with that name while the dog was barking?) a friend of mine has a cousin named Little John. He's in his 30s so it was before the rapper. Couldn't believe it until he showed me his birth certificate. He has a couple brothers and sisters with weird names that make no sense. I would like a WR that is "open when he's not". That doesn't mean he has to be 6'5". I think Antonio brown and OBJ are open when they are covered, they just do it a different way than a Calvin Johnson, Mike Evans or Kelvin Benjamin. Basically I would like a talented receiver. Edited December 22, 2015 by Not at the table Karlos
simpleman Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 I keep thinking about our WRs and think about Easley. He is listed as a WR and takes up a spot there. He is a beast on special teams, is a hitter, is fast, has decent hands, is big and tall. There must be a valid reason why coaches never seem to give him much chance at WR. Has anyone ever considered trying him out at safety in addition to special teams and freeing up a slot for someone new at WR? We need help at safety and I wonder if he could work there. We know it sometimes works from recent Bills history. Thoughts?
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