\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 https://twitter.com/timkawakami/status/678687926427901952
zonabb Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 This is what happens when you build a new stadium, drive up prices, require PSLs, and kick out the diehard supporters for wealthy, casual fans and very often corporate seats. Welcome to the NFL where fans with disposable income and limited interest stay home because not going isn't like they've lost anythihg. That being said, I'm skipping the last two games myself. I'm worn out.
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Mike in Horseheads Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 "Plenty of good seats still available"
Mr. WEO Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 That will the "LA Chargers" November crowd next year.
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 This is what happens when you build a new stadium, drive up prices, require PSLs, and kick out the diehard supporters for wealthy, casual fans and very often corporate seats. Welcome to the NFL where fans with disposable income and limited interest stay home because not going isn't like they've lost anythihg. That being said, I'm skipping the last two games myself. I'm worn out. No question that's what the NFL has become. However the Bay Area has plenty of money. I don't think that's the problem here. It's the wealthiest area in the country. The problem is that outside of Buffalo when you lose people don't show up. Bills fans are amazing, that's what this picture means.
eball Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 I wish Buffalo fans would make a statement to the Pegulas by showing up in similar fashion the next two weeks.
KD in CA Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 This is what happens when you build a new stadium, drive up prices, require PSLs, and kick out the diehard supporters for wealthy, casual fans and very often corporate seats. Welcome to the NFL where fans with disposable income and limited interest stay home because not going isn't like they've lost anythihg. That being said, I'm skipping the last two games myself. I'm worn out. Yup. Best example is the new Yankee Stadium. Anytime they show the on-deck batter on TV you can see the $1000+ per ticket box seats 90% empty. Every game.
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Yankee Stadium would fill right up if they were still winning World Series. In most cities fans are fickle, and don't show when their teams aren't winning. Teams like the Yankees have even higher standards. Wait until Brady retires in New England. Even if they become an average playoff team the stadium will likely fail to be full every week. A lot of these "empty seats" have already been sold and licensed out. The fans are just failing to show. The team and league get their money, they are happy either way.
MarkyMannn Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 This is what happens when you build a new stadium, drive up prices, require PSLs, and kick out the diehard supporters for wealthy, casual fans and very often corporate seats. Welcome to the NFL where fans with disposable income and limited interest stay home because not going isn't like they've lost anythihg. That being said, I'm skipping the last two games myself. I'm worn out. Fans better realize when / if a new stadium is built here, that will happen here too. All of a sudden RWS looks pretty good
sir andrew Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Almost as bad as a Florida Panthers game.
The Avenger Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 This is what happens when you build a new stadium, drive up prices, require PSLs, and kick out the diehard supporters for wealthy, casual fans and very often corporate seats. Welcome to the NFL where fans with disposable income and limited interest stay home because not going isn't like they've lost anythihg. That being said, I'm skipping the last two games myself. I'm worn out. It's like that with everything nowadays - any type of event you want to see - sports, concert, show - only the wealthy can afford to go. I remember growing up we didn't have much money, but every so often we would go to a game or a show at Sheas, but nowadays I don't know how a family could do it without dropping $500 - that's a lot of money. It's a shame because kids don't get to see the things I got to as a kid - they have to watch everything on TV or video because it's too expensive to actually go to many things. My brother lives in San Jose and makes a pretty good living - his son is a huge Niners fan and they can't go to a game because it would cost a minimum of $300/seat to go - not worth it, but they are losing my nephew as the next generation of people to attend games.
8-8 Forever? Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Yankee Stadium would fill right up if they were still winning World Series. In most cities fans are fickle, and don't show when their teams aren't winning. Teams like the Yankees have even higher standards. Wait until Brady retires in New England. Even if they become an average playoff team the stadium will likely fail to be full every week. A lot of these "empty seats" have already been sold and licensed out. The fans are just failing to show. The team and league get their money, they are happy either way. Not sure. Went to Bills/Skins yesterday. I have to tell you , the in person NFL experience is not very good. So many timeouts , the game has zero flow, you have to stand the entire game, half of the fans are twenty something male loser-types exceedingly drunk and therefore abnoxious and cursing the whole game. the stress level + the alcohol level = tension in the stands... If your team is losing, the atmosphere is pretty toxic.. entertainment means winning. No entertainment (if your team is behind or playing like crap + drunk + nowhere to go = pretty lousy experience for 100's o dollars. the stadium inside and out is nothing but a huge advertising platform; i figured out where all the roadside billboards went..FEDEX Field is covered inside and out with them.. I mean Covered. lighted/flashing/like freakin times square ... had a hard time finding the tiny little game clock display..seriously. and did i mention too many timeouts? long timeouts.... football is a great TV game. At home, remote in hand. Guess I'm getting old. Directv has nothing to fear with their NFL Sunday ticket platform.. .I'm in.
What a Tuel Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 You guys really think the prices are why the stadium is empty? I can go on ticket exchange and buy an $150 100 section ticket, $125 200 section $85 100 section for their final game against the Rams. Why aren't all the die hard fans buying up these tickets? That's not to say that they are cheaper than our tickets, but they aren't thousands of dollars, or corporate boxes.
KD in CA Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 You guys really think the prices are why the stadium is empty? I can go on ticket exchange and buy an $150 100 section ticket, $125 200 section $85 100 section for their final game against the Rams. Why aren't all the die hard fans buying up these tickets? That's not to say that they are cheaper than our tickets, but they aren't thousands of dollars, or corporate boxes. If you kill your season ticket holders you kill your fans. You're just not going to get 40,000 people buying secondary market tickets. Also, the Niners moved the team over an hour from their city. They are really the San Jose 49ers now. Yankee Stadium would fill right up if they were still winning World Series. In most cities fans are fickle, and don't show when their teams aren't winning. Teams like the Yankees have even higher standards. Wait until Brady retires in New England. Even if they become an average playoff team the stadium will likely fail to be full every week. A lot of these "empty seats" have already been sold and licensed out. The fans are just failing to show. The team and league get their money, they are happy either way. Most of those box seats have been empty for playoff games too. You're right that someone probably bought them, but he's some hedge fund billionaire who shows up 2 or 3 times a year and doesn't really care about selling or giving his tickets away. Certainly the teams have figured out the best way to maximize revenue but in doing so many of them are killing the stadium experience.
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 You guys really think the prices are why the stadium is empty? I can go on ticket exchange and buy an $150 100 section ticket, $125 200 section $85 100 section for their final game against the Rams. Why aren't all the die hard fans buying up these tickets? That's not to say that they are cheaper than our tickets, but they aren't thousands of dollars, or corporate boxes. This ^ People aren't showing up because their team stinks. The Ralph is the place to be in Buffalo on Sunday regardless of the team's performance. In other cities people are going to do something else when their team is out of the running. A lot of those empty seats have already been sold, and people simply didn't show. The tickets you showed on Stubhub show that money isn't the main issue here. Sure it's more than Buffalo, but the average income in the Bay Area is much greater as well.
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