Deranged Rhino Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 Ever been to Germany? Notice all the statues of Jodl, Von Rundstadt, Keitel, Von Paulus, and Rommel? Me neither. This isn't hard. It's not as cut and dry as you're trying to make it either.
boyst Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 It's not as cut and dry as you're trying to make it either. it is when it's Hitler and Satan. Ya know, come to think of it there is certainly irony. Heavily conservative religious folks think that the Democrats are the devils work. It's like two sets of crazies trying to out loon each other
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 Ever been to Germany? Notice all the statues of Jodl, Von Rundstadt, Keitel, Von Paulus, and Rommel? Me neither. This isn't hard. Are you making Robert E. Lee analogous to Nazis?
Deranged Rhino Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 it is when it's Hitler and Satan. Ya know, come to think of it there is certainly irony. Heavily conservative religious folks think that the Democrats are the devils work. It's like two sets of crazies trying to out loon each other The fringes and extremes of both parties have always been populated by nutters. What's alarming is the amount of "centrists" (or at least people who think they're centrists) suddenly espousing views and beliefs that run contrary to the basic principles of liberalism, freedom, and American democracy... ... Of course I've been arguing for years that we no longer live in a Democratic Republic, we only think we do... I guess now most people have just given up entirely on the notion that the republic can be saved. Are you making Robert E. Lee analogous to Nazis? Yes. Because the nuances of history are lost on those who have never bothered to study it.
Chef Jim Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 Are you making Robert E. Lee analogous to Nazis? I know. That's about as stupid as making the Egyptians analogous to the Confederates.
BringBackOrton Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) The Pyramids don't honor a lost cause of white supremacy They honor a lost cause of Egyptian ruling class superiority. You know, the folks who thought themselves mortal vessels of deities and all their subjects existed to serve them? Why do you torture yourself? Edited August 18, 2017 by jmc12290
DC Tom Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 Ever been to Germany? Notice all the statues of Jodl, Von Rundstadt, Keitel, Von Paulus, and Rommel? Me neither. This isn't hard. No, it's not... https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/183809-new-orleans-to-remove-excremental-rebel-monuments/?p=4475988 The Brits keep up statues of Cromwell, too...
B-Man Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) TYLER O’NEIL: If the Monuments Must Go, Don’t Forget These. and the over-reaction boulder continues to pick up speed Manassas VAVerified account @CityofManassasFollow Civil War Weekend in the City of Manassas Canceled for Aug. 25-27. Please see the message from the City below: Recreating an actual historical battle won't exacerbate the situation. Not having the weekend exacerbates the situation Edited August 18, 2017 by B-Man
Thurmal34 Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) Are you making Robert E. Lee analogous to Nazis?Those guys were Wehrmacht, not Nazis party members, so no. What I'm saying is Lee led the army of a traitorous nation that was founded on white supremacy and was defeated. Those guys led the army of a regime bent on conquest for lebensraum and based on aryan supremacy and was defeated. One nation admitted they were wrong and moved on. Edited August 19, 2017 by Thurmal34
DC Tom Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 Those guys were Wehrmacht, not Nazis party members, so no. What I'm saying is Lee led the army of a traitorous nation that was founded on white supremacy. That's not even right.
B-Man Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 SMASH ALL THE THINGS! New Orleans’ Joan of Arc Statue Vandalized With ‘Take It Down.’ Wait, which side did she fight for in the Civil War? Now The Vandals Are Attacking Statues Of Catholic SaintsAs President Trump said, the totalitarian mob rule of removing statues people find offensive has a slippery slope descending into darkness. On top of people calling for the removal of George Washington's statue and the Jefferson Memorial, vandals in California have pointed their crosshairs at recently-canonized St. Junipero Serra. According to a CBS Local report, a photo circulating the rounds on Facebook shows that a statue of Junipero Serra alongside a Native American boy in a park across from Mission San Fernando was vandalized with red paint and the word "murder" written in white. The Native American boy had a swastika painted across his chest.
RaoulDuke79 Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 Thankfully Gettysburg is taking a stand that the confederate monuments won't be removed. It's part of history for better or worse...if we continue on this path maybe we can forget the civil war or slavery even happened.
DC Tom Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 Thankfully Gettysburg is taking a stand that the confederate monuments won't be removed. It's part of history for better or worse...if we continue on this path maybe we can forget the civil war or slavery even happened. There's something vaguely ironic about Dan Sickles' ego project commemorating his greatest !@#$-up keeping Confederate statues on the field.
RaoulDuke79 Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) SMASH ALL THE THINGS! New Orleans Joan of Arc Statue Vandalized With Take It Down. Wait, which side did she fight for in the Civil War? Now The Vandals Are Attacking Statues Of Catholic Saints As President Trump said, the totalitarian mob rule of removing statues people find offensive has a slippery slope descending into darkness. On top of people calling for the removal of George Washington's statue and the Jefferson Memorial, vandals in California have pointed their crosshairs at recently-canonized St. Junipero Serra. According to a CBS Local report, a photo circulating the rounds on Facebook shows that a statue of Junipero Serra alongside a Native American boy in a park across from Mission San Fernando was vandalized with red paint and the word "murder" written in white. The Native American boy had a swastika painted across his chest. Who didn't see this coming. There's some lunatic everywhere that could perhaps find any monument offensive. Unfortunately it has become acceptable to deface and destroy those sculptures. Get ready for just about any statue anywhere to be defaced in an act of one upmanship. Stores and other private property will be next. There's something vaguely ironic about Dan Sickles' ego project commemorating his greatest !@#$-up keeping Confederate statues on the field. I don't know who Dan sickles is. Edited August 19, 2017 by RaoulDuke79
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 Oh, you guys didn't think it would stop with the Confederacy, did you? Christian symbolism is next.
RaoulDuke79 Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 Oh, you guys didn't think it would stop with the Confederacy, did you? Christian symbolism is next. Don't worry about it man. Take up the spirit and go break something. I've always found that Bobs big boy sign a bit agitating. I might give him a piece of my mind tonight.
GoBills808 Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 Oh, you guys didn't think it would stop with the Confederacy, did you? Christian symbolism is next. They can all go as far as I'm concerned.
reddogblitz Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) We've got some statue craziness going on in Seattle. 2 of them actually. One is a Confederate soldiers memorial at a private cemetary. I don't think hardly anyone in Seattle knew about it until the Seattle Times ran a picture of it yesterday. Now of course there are protesters there and the mayor says they should take it down. The other is a statue of Lenin that someone found in a field and shipped it back to Seattle a long time ago. It's pretty much been a joke since I've lived here. Allegedly it's for sale. It's in a shopping center parking lot. They put Christmas lights on it in December. Now they have protesters too. http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-mayor-murray-calls-for-removal-of-confederate-monument-lenin-statue/ But that's America. Distract the people about something trivial. And now with social media, a mob mentality ensues. Notice the uproar over health care reform had been taken over by this statue business. Edited August 19, 2017 by reddogblitz
GoBills808 Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 Article from the Times on Lee and his views vis-a-vis slavery: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/18/us/robert-e-lee-slaves.html?module=WatchingPortal®ion=c-column-middle-span-region&pgType=Homepage&action=click&mediaId=thumb_square&state=standard&contentPlacement=1&version=internal&contentCollection=www.nytimes.com&contentId=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2017%2F08%2F18%2Fus%2Frobert-e-lee-slaves.html&eventName=Watching-article-click Interestingly, he was apparently opposed to the construction of Confederate monuments, saying it was better "not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife.”
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 19, 2017 Posted August 19, 2017 They can all go as far as I'm concerned.Unsurprising.
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