DC Tom Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 One would wonder what the community organizer's motives were to team up with a known slumlord and poor quality developer for the tune of about 400k. Um...to buy a house? apples and oranges. Cruz is meeting with a hater while campainging, Obama, not so much What did Rev Wright say that was this bad? Obfuscating.
3rdnlng Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Um...to buy a house? Obfuscating. Um...to buy a house? Obfuscating. Do you know the specifics?
B-Man Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) HMM: Poll: Cruz within 3 points of Trump nationally. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump holds a slim three-point lead over rival Ted Cruz nationally, according to a new poll released Tuesday. Trump has 30 percent support, according to the NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey, with Cruz at 27 percent. Last month’s version of the same poll found Cruz two points ahead of Trump. It was the only poll since November to show someone other than Trump leading the field nationally. Tuesday’s results show a tightening in the GOP field overall, with 10 points separating all GOP candidates. John Kasich is in third place with 22 percent, with Marco Rubio behind him at 20 percent. Kasich’s support is double the 11 percent he got in last month’s version of the poll. Carly: I’m backing Cruz Edited March 9, 2016 by B-Man
DC Tom Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Do you know the specifics? Yes. It's a mildly complex real estate transaction, but there was nothing really unusual about it. I've seen far worse.
3rdnlng Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) Yes. It's a mildly complex real estate transaction, but there was nothing really unusual about it. I've seen far worse. I remember digging into it a few years ago. I went as far as to find the zoning map & regs from I believe Chicago proper. The lots in Obama's area or street called for 50' of frontage in order for a home to be built on it. Rezko's lot next door was 50' wide. On the day of Obama' house closing he deeded 10' to Obama rendering the 40' lot useless to anyone but its neighbors. Obama paid for the 10' (around a 100k) but basically gained control of 50'. Rezko basically gave Obama 400k of benefits. We know what the tit was but do we know what the tat was? Edited March 10, 2016 by 3rdnlng
Fingon Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2016/02/26/Poll-38-of-Florida-voters-believe-Ted-Cruz-could-be-the-Zodiac-Killer/4771456519542/ WASHINGTON, Feb. 26 (UPI) -- A poll by Public Policy Polling found that a surprising number of Florida voters believe Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz could be the Zodiac Killer.While a 62 percent majority of voters answered "No" when asked if they believed Cruz was responsible for the string of murders in the early 70s, 10 percent answered "Yes" and an additional 28 percent said they were unsure. Several reports say the rumor stems from a speech Cruz delivered at the Conservative Political Action Conference in 2013 titled "This is the Zodiac Speaking" and has become popular again since he began his presidential campaign.
4merper4mer Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2016/02/26/Poll-38-of-Florida-voters-believe-Ted-Cruz-could-be-the-Zodiac-Killer/4771456519542/ Imagine how smart someone has to be to do all of that and get away with it when he is 7 years old. This only helps Cruz if true.
Nanker Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 I remember digging into it a few years ago. I went as far as to find the zoning map & regs from I believe Chicago proper. The lots in Obama's area or street called for 50' of frontage in order for a home to be built on it. Rezko's lot next door was 50' wide. On the day of Obama' house closing he deeded 10' to Obama rendering the 40' lot useless to anyone but its neighbors. Obama paid for the 10' (around a 100k) but basically gained control of 50'. Rezko basically gave Obama 400k of benefits. We know what the tit was but do we know what the tat was? A date with Larry Sinclair?
keepthefaith Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2016/02/26/Poll-38-of-Florida-voters-believe-Ted-Cruz-could-be-the-Zodiac-Killer/4771456519542/ More evidence of the cluelessness of the American electorate. We are a bunch of turds. Michelle Obama is finally proud of her country. I'm less proud. I remember digging into it a few years ago. I went as far as to find the zoning map & regs from I believe Chicago proper. The lots in Obama's area or street called for 50' of frontage in order for a home to be built on it. Rezko's lot next door was 50' wide. On the day of Obama' house closing he deeded 10' to Obama rendering the 40' lot useless to anyone but its neighbors. Obama paid for the 10' (around a 100k) but basically gained control of 50'. Rezko basically gave Obama 400k of benefits. We know what the tit was but do we know what the tat was? Rezko and Obama were involved in a number of things prior to that land deal including political fund raising and other development projects supported by public money so the trail lies in there somewhere.
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 I think Rubio is dropping out soon, that should give a bump to cruz
Observer Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 I think Rubio is dropping out soon, that should give a bump to cruz Might be a bigger bump to Kasich. Every dropout is a blow to Trump but it might be too late. They all hung on to hope for far too long. And Rubio staying on in Florida will almost certainly give it to Trump, which is a major blow to the anti-Trump movement.
Dante Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) More evidence of the cluelessness of the American electorate. We are a bunch of turds. Michelle Obama is finally proud of her country. I'm less proud. Rezko and Obama were involved in a number of things prior to that land deal including political fund raising and other development projects supported by public money so the trail lies in there somewhere. If it is clueless now what was it 8 years ago when it elected socialist anti American turd no body metro sexual turd? Full retard? Edited March 10, 2016 by Dante
DC Tom Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 If it is clueless now what was it 8 years ago when it elected socialist anti American turd no body metro sexual turd? Full retard? And this incomprehensible gibberish is the edited post?
Dr. Who Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Might be a bigger bump to Kasich. Every dropout is a blow to Trump but it might be too late. They all hung on to hope for far too long. And Rubio staying on in Florida will almost certainly give it to Trump, which is a major blow to the anti-Trump movement. So far as I can tell, Rubio is the only one with a chance to beat Trump in Florida. Since it's a winner take all state for delegates, supporters of non-Trump candidates should hope Rubio wins it.
GG Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 So far as I can tell, Rubio is the only one with a chance to beat Trump in Florida. Since it's a winner take all state for delegates, supporters of non-Trump candidates should hope Rubio wins it. It will splinter the vote some more, and outside Florida, Rubio has very little support. He had a strong debate a few weeks back, but failed to generate voter support after that. I'm guessing there's now a lot of voices on the back bench telling him to get out before Florida. I think it was flipped a few weeks ago with pressure on Kasich to drop out, but after a strong showing in Michigan, support switched. With Rubio gone sooner than later, the votes among the three will be much closer. Kasich should be much more competitive in non-conservative states and grab most of the 65% I Hate Trump vote.
Dr. Who Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) It will splinter the vote some more, and outside Florida, Rubio has very little support. He had a strong debate a few weeks back, but failed to generate voter support after that. I'm guessing there's now a lot of voices on the back bench telling him to get out before Florida. I think it was flipped a few weeks ago with pressure on Kasich to drop out, but after a strong showing in Michigan, support switched. With Rubio gone sooner than later, the votes among the three will be much closer. Kasich should be much more competitive in non-conservative states and grab most of the 65% I Hate Trump vote. Well, tactically, I don't see the benefit of Rubio getting out before Florida. He's not taking many votes elsewhere right now. After Florida, he probably should get out. Of course, if he wins Florida, he won't, so it's rather bad either way (assuming one does not want Trump.) As I dislike both Trump and Cruz (and vote GOP because I am not a progressive,) this has been a very disappointing nomination process. In any event, it's moot, because I can't see Rubio dropping out before a Florida result. Edited March 10, 2016 by Dr. Who
GG Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Well, tactically, I don't see the benefit of Rubio getting out before Florida. He's not taking many votes elsewhere right now. After Florida, he probably should get out. Of course, if he wins Florida, he won't, so it's rather bad either way (assuming one does not want Trump.) As I dislike both Trump and Cruz (and vote GOP because I am not a progressive,) this has been a very disappointing nomination process. In any event, it's moot, because I can't see Rubio dropping out before a Florida result. I'm referring to the pressure he's getting from the GOP to drop out before Florida, as it would be a huge boost for Kasich/Cruz. Hopefully someone can convince him that even if he somehow wins Florida, he won't get much support elsewhere down the road and him staying on the campaign trail will ensure Trump's nomination. Rubio clearly wants to stay in though.
Dr. Who Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 I'm referring to the pressure he's getting from the GOP to drop out before Florida, as it would be a huge boost for Kasich/Cruz. Hopefully someone can convince him that even if he somehow wins Florida, he won't get much support elsewhere down the road and him staying on the campaign trail will ensure Trump's nomination. Rubio clearly wants to stay in though. Gotcha. On a side note, can someone explain the meaning of GOP establishment? I always thought it meant a country-club fiscal conservative with moderate to liberal social preferences. I am not that, but lately it seems I am somehow establishment. Though in truth, no one really articulates my views very closely. Tea Party populism and the kind of narrow zealotry I discern in C-pac Cruz supporters is not for me, at least.
IDBillzFan Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 I'm referring to the pressure he's getting from the GOP to drop out before Florida, as it would be a huge boost for Kasich/Cruz. Hopefully someone can convince him that even if he somehow wins Florida, he won't get much support elsewhere down the road and him staying on the campaign trail will ensure Trump's nomination. Rubio clearly wants to stay in though. Cruz sees he can beat Trump one-on-one, which is why he'd like Rubio out, but if Rubio somehow wins Florida and Kasich wins Ohio, Trump is in trouble...which, as I read it, is the GOP establishment's hope. Then Rubio and Kasich drop out, and Cruz runs the tables with all the closed primaries coming. Anyone paying attention knows Trump in closed primaries is a dead dog, especially one-on-one. Then again, I'm just regurgitating what I'm reading from some optimists. I'm starting to resolve myself to a Hillary presidency.
Dr. Who Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Cruz sees he can beat Trump one-on-one, which is why he'd like Rubio out, but if Rubio somehow wins Florida and Kasich wins Ohio, Trump is in trouble...which, as I read it, is the GOP establishment's hope. Then Rubio and Kasich drop out, and Cruz runs the tables with all the closed primaries coming. Anyone paying attention knows Trump in closed primaries is a dead dog, especially one-on-one. Then again, I'm just regurgitating what I'm reading from some optimists. I'm starting to resolve myself to a Hillary presidency. I can't see Cruz winning a general election. Seems to me Kasich would do much better. Cruz comes across as humorless and utterly inflexible. I don't think that plays well outside of a narrow ideological group that is largely confined to the South. Though I don't seem to reflect the sensibilities of most Americans these days, so maybe I am wrong.
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