BarleyNY Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Probably not, but I sure as !@#$ can complain about it all I !@#$ing want. So now, with all the holes on the O-line, the crap linebackers, iffy Safeties, and sub-par receivers, we should select a nose tackle. I don't like the way things are going. Yeah. NT should be waaaay down the list of priorities in the offseason. Quality WR who is a deep threat and OL head the list. QB is also on it. Replacements for anyone we part ways with on the DL would be high, too. What happens with Glenn and Incognito is huge here. Even with them the OL needs help, but without them that OL is a trainwreck. Realistically we won't be able to fill all of the holes, but if we need to get quality players to fill some of them. Edited December 14, 2015 by BarleyNY
NoSaint Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 You net about 12.9 million towards the cap in a year where the team is in cap hell. It would be a very wise decision. Cutting him does a lot even when you take in account a hit of 7 million in dead money for that year. Calling it cap hell is a bit dramatic
Jauronimo Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 Maybe we should draft a DE with better coverage skills? Are there any college DEs who drop back into that shallow zone well?
QCity Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 It would be nice if one of our $100M defensive linemen could play with half the intensity that Fletcher Cox played with yesterday.
YoloinOhio Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 @JonTWCNews: Rex Ryan denies Mario Williams has "checked out." Was dealing with foot injury. Acknowledges numbers aren't there, but still competes #Bills @SalSports: Rex on Mario: "He had a foot injury that slowed him down. But he doesn't use it as an excuse....he hasn't checked out."
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 Oh I remember the last time a Bills defensive player had a foot "injury"..... Edit: And now he called in sick for practice CBF
Best Player Available Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 @JonTWCNews: Rex Ryan denies Mario Williams has "checked out." Was dealing with foot injury. Acknowledges numbers aren't there, but still competes #Bills @SalSports: Rex on Mario: "He had a foot injury that slowed him down. But he doesn't use it as an excuse....he hasn't checked out." Watching him play it sure looks like he's checked out. Some plays he just stands there, and does little more. it's embarassing and he's playing like he did at the end of his first year in Buffalo. The Houston Rumor That he took plays off seems to have transferred to Buffalo. Way too much money for his production. A true dedicated star no matter how goofy rex's scheme appears to be should go all in. mario is the opposite. WTF is he doing out there hurt anyways, and was it on the injury report? Too bad J. Wynn got knocked out for the season, would like to see that guy play more.
billykaykay Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 ok i give up why cut mario when that does nothing? he's of starting quality, for one and he's bought and paid for. his cap hit doesn't impact this team much for next year and he may still even renegotiate, too. cutting mario makes as much sense as cutting garrison sanborne. if we cut mario who do we replace him with? further, who on the lb market would be worth Von Miller won't hit FA Roladno McClain maybe the only one worth it. Sean Weatherspoon could get top dollar and faulter like many premier LB's on their next team - Kruger, Poz, etc. Bruce Irvin could be worth it, but will get a lot of money! Aldon Smith, Vincent Rey won't be worth the high dollar. Hali is too old. Greenway, too old Why cut him? Are you kidding. Any player off the UB BULLS would be a better value. You don't seem to understand how far he has fallen. Another poster said that all he does is stand up & play patty cake with the guy in front of him. Please watch him. He regrettably hit the proverbial wall & is now in the bottom 10th of DE's using any measure or statistical web site you choose.
Leroi Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 @JonTWCNews: Rex Ryan denies Mario Williams has "checked out." Was dealing with foot injury. Acknowledges numbers aren't there, but still competes #Bills @SalSports: Rex on Mario: "He had a foot injury that slowed him down. But he doesn't use it as an excuse....he hasn't checked out." I'd like to hear Whaley's opinion on #94. Imo
26CornerBlitz Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 @YardsPerPass I know Mario doesn't want to... But I think he would be an amazing 3-4 DE... so strong at the point of attack when he wants to be This isn't from 3-4 end... but look at Mario just bully guys Mario has a huge cap number, but the dude is still an imposing figure at DE, really a freak w/ regards to his strength Mario never goes anywhere he doesn't want to go
TheFunPolice Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 I wish this was Madden 16 so we could sim the rest of the season, do the draft tonight, sim the 2016 pre-season and have a meaningful exciting game with a healthy team tomorrow.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 @YardsPerPass I know Mario doesn't want to... But I think he would be an amazing 3-4 DE... so strong at the point of attack when he wants to be This isn't from 3-4 end... but look at Mario just bully guys Mario has a huge cap number, but the dude is still an imposing figure at DE, really a freak w/ regards to his strength Mario never goes anywhere he doesn't want to go I never understood why he wouldn't play end. In the nickel zone blitz schemes, you HAVE to occaisionally cover as an OLB. We usually only have 2 down linemen in those formations with 4 backers. I'd rather have a mario/dareus combo out there with another speedier player than what we have - but we gotta make do. And for those who say it doesnt work - pittsburgh, baltimore, even GB have shown that it certainly can work.
Doc Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 I'd fire Ryan before I'd cut Mario. The problems on defense start and end with him.
dpberr Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 All Mario wants to do is go kill quarterbacks. That's been the only thing he wants to do throughout his college days and days with the Texans. In a scheme where he gets to do that, he's All-Pro. It's when he's asked to do anything else, you get what you see today. Same goes for Jerry Hughes. He's a bust doing anything else but quarterback blitzing.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 All Mario wants to do is go kill quarterbacks. That's been the only thing he wants to do throughout his college days and days with the Texans. In a scheme where he gets to do that, he's All-Pro. It's when he's asked to do anything else, you get what you see today. Same goes for Jerry Hughes. He's a bust doing anything else but quarterback blitzing. @YardsPerPass This is why Hughes is such a fit for Rex, looks so natural dropping into the flat and getting underneath the out
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 mario has been taking plays off all the way back to the NE game in Buffalo when Gronk blocked him one on one for a NE TD. A player making his kind of money and with his talent should not be taking plays off. BTW has Mario ever been a team captain? Here or in Houston?
YoloinOhio Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 mario has been taking plays off all the way back to the NE game in Buffalo when Gronk blocked him one on one for a NE TD. A player making his kind of money and with his talent should not be taking plays off. BTW has Mario ever been a team captain? Here or in Houston? He was a captain just last year!
KollegeStudnet Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) The defense, same personel since last season, has been questionable all year. How do you go from first to worst in the sack department? One man is responsible for that, defensive guru and our head coach Rex Ryan. Another, Thurman has been average at playcalling and below average at getting the most out of their skill set. Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda... Imagine if this team was tops in sacks, top 10 in Defense, we could easily be 9-4. In the playoffs and Rex would be the savior we were looking for. But, no. #1 in penalties, though Edited December 16, 2015 by KollegeStudnet
fansince88 Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 Here is what they should do with him. Offer him a contract renegotiation. If he says no, then put him on the trading block and get what you can. If you cant trade him cut him. If he wants to be here he will talk money to stay. Simple as that. If he doesn't want to be here he will balk the system.
34-78-83 Posted December 17, 2015 Posted December 17, 2015 we have a boat load of 'expert' fans who don't see the game accurately and spew forth some insane premises. If Mario 'took plays off' he wouldn't play,especially as often as it is being assumed by many here in this thread. Guys that take plays off like that in the real NFL (not Joe Fan's version of it) don't play for long. They get benched and they get cut. Mario is playing hurt now. 3-4 Ends (besides Bruce Smith) don't gather stats typically either, especially playing mostly from the strong side of the formation like Mario. That's just another small point that folks that understand the strategy of the game already know. Their assignments aren't the same (even from 3-4 scheme to 3-4 scheme sometimes). Almost All I read on here these days is completely incorrect statements about players such as he, or the talent limit of a guy like Sammy, or the assumed limitations of our 1st year starting QB, or how "terrible" our center is. Are ALL these guys all-pros or have all-pro potential? Of course not.But they are also not nearly the liabilities they are made to be. People that debate the visual reality of what these players can do get all caught up in demanding "proof" of this and statistical analysis of that. When you've been around (and paid attention) to the game of football long enough, maybe played it a bit, maybe enjoyed not always watching where the ball is at live games once in a while, coached it in some capacities, etc. you know what you're watching out there. It's not hard to see a good player out there and it's also nearly impossible for that player to hide such a disgraceful thing as taking plays off. The coaches see all. They review every player on every play over and over and over again. Mario is an excellent player who is a bit of a duck out of water playing hurt now in a new scheme for him that he may not be the best fit for. Does his contract need to be tweaked due to age, other player retention needs and scheme fit? YES or he may need to find another team. Is he a lazy or poor team player? No Rex isn't ALWAYS spinning it up there guys... Notice his mention of the layman's eye in many of his commentaries.
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