Coach Tuesday Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 For most of the day today he just stood there. Literally. The Eagles would snap the ball and Mario would stand upright and play arm judo with the lineman. Either he is injured or he's uninterested.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) is it just me or does it seem like he is just going through the motions out there One of the/if not the worst DE in 2015. I don't expect him to be this bad next year but he is in obvious decline. A smart GM would cut him next year even when you take in account his cap hit. Edited December 13, 2015 by BuffaloBillsForever
boyst Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 ok i give up why cut mario when that does nothing? he's of starting quality, for one and he's bought and paid for. his cap hit doesn't impact this team much for next year and he may still even renegotiate, too. cutting mario makes as much sense as cutting garrison sanborne. if we cut mario who do we replace him with? further, who on the lb market would be worth Von Miller won't hit FA Roladno McClain maybe the only one worth it. Sean Weatherspoon could get top dollar and faulter like many premier LB's on their next team - Kruger, Poz, etc. Bruce Irvin could be worth it, but will get a lot of money! Aldon Smith, Vincent Rey won't be worth the high dollar. Hali is too old. Greenway, too old
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) ok i give up why cut mario when that does nothing? he's of starting quality, for one and he's bought and paid for. his cap hit doesn't impact this team much for next year and he may still even renegotiate, too. cutting mario makes as much sense as cutting garrison sanborne. if we cut mario who do we replace him with? further, who on the lb market would be worth Von Miller won't hit FA Roladno McClain maybe the only one worth it. Sean Weatherspoon could get top dollar and faulter like many premier LB's on their next team - Kruger, Poz, etc. Bruce Irvin could be worth it, but will get a lot of money! Aldon Smith, Vincent Rey won't be worth the high dollar. Hali is too old. Greenway, too old You net about 12.9 million towards the cap in a year where the team is in cap hell. It would be a very wise decision. Cutting him does a lot even when you take in account a hit of 7 million in dead money for that year. Edited December 13, 2015 by BuffaloBillsForever
Mike in Syracuse Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 I don't expect Mario to single handedly change the course of games. I do expect him to win 1 v 1 matchup which he doesn't seem to be able to do.
dave mcbride Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 You net about 12.9 million towards the cap in a year where the team is in cap hell. It would be a very wise decision. Cutting him does a lot even when you take in account a hit of 7 million in dead money for that year. Yep.
BUFFALOTONE Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Hope it's an injury but he's a non factor. Seems like when Kyle when down the defense lost its heart. You see flashes but not guts anywhere. Seriously doubt he's on our sideline next year. Edited December 14, 2015 by BUFFALOTONE
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 We watched different games if your takeaway was Mario, or any of defenders for that matter, caused us the game and ultimately the season. This offense continues to be a joke. Hmmmm.
John from Riverside Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 ok i give up why cut mario when that does nothing? he's of starting quality, for one and he's bought and paid for. his cap hit doesn't impact this team much for next year and he may still even renegotiate, too. cutting mario makes as much sense as cutting garrison sanborne. if we cut mario who do we replace him with? further, who on the lb market would be worth Von Miller won't hit FA Roladno McClain maybe the only one worth it. Sean Weatherspoon could get top dollar and faulter like many premier LB's on their next team - Kruger, Poz, etc. Bruce Irvin could be worth it, but will get a lot of money! Aldon Smith, Vincent Rey won't be worth the high dollar. Hali is too old. Greenway, too old Its a matter of performance vs money being tied up I fully expect this team to go to a 34 defense......and that makes pass rushing DEs much less of a priority....you need down linemen to gobble up runners.....and your linebackers create the pressure So paying Mario all the money to stand there like he is doing right now is not smart..... Instead you - Put out a legit Nose - Move Marcel to one DE spot - Hughes moves to more of a linebacker - Will need more linebackers - hopefully Carrington comes back.....as he actually fits this role pretty well This D is gonna look a lot different next season....that is what I think.
BarleyNY Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 They have bigger issues than Mario. The QB salary is still cheap and they only need to sign Glenn/Incognito. Restructure Mario and upgrade the LB's. The Bills can sure use that cap room so I can totally see them parting ways with Mario. Restructuring is pretty pointless unless he is extended and I don't know why they'd do that. I can't count the number of people who just blurt out "restructure him" like its a solution. Please be specific about it. If you try, you'll quickly see there isn't much to be done. Cut him Why not trade him? There are certainly teams out there with plenty of cap space that could use him in a scheme that's a better fit for him.
Max997 Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 Mario, Leo, EJ, and probably Kyle won't be with Bills next year
billsfan714 Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Its a matter of performance vs money being tied up I fully expect this team to go to a 34 defense......and that makes pass rushing DEs much less of a priority....you need down linemen to gobble up runners.....and your linebackers create the pressure So paying Mario all the money to stand there like he is doing right now is not smart..... Instead you - Put out a legit Nose - Move Marcel to one DE spot - Hughes moves to more of a linebacker - Will need more linebackers - hopefully Carrington comes back.....as he actually fits this role pretty well This is the part I dont get with the Rex hiring. We had this great 4-3 defensive line. We hire a 3-4 guy. , KW is not a NT or a 3-4 defensive end. Marcel Dareus is not a 100 million dollar 3-4 DE hes much better as a 4-3 DT. MW doesnt want to drop in coverage. Rushing just 3 makes them a less effective unit. The more i think about and see the results, the Rex hiring is making absolutely no sense for the defensive personal we have. Edited December 14, 2015 by billsfan714
Prickly Pete Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 And if they do go 3-4 they are going to need to have a different set of backups. It's easy to say "get a legit Nose Tackle", but then you have to consider that your whole defense is going to depend on that one guy staying healthy. A switch to 3-4 is going to take at least 2 seasons to build good depth.
John from Riverside Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 And if they do go 3-4 they are going to need to have a different set of backups. It's easy to say "get a legit Nose Tackle", but then you have to consider that your whole defense is going to depend on that one guy staying healthy. A switch to 3-4 is going to take at least 2 seasons to build good depth. It all depends on how many of these current guys actually fit a move to the new scheme In my mnd Its happening no matter what so we might as well embrace it
Prickly Pete Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 It all depends on how many of these current guys actually fit a move to the new scheme In my mnd Its happening no matter what so we might as well embrace it I'm holding out, hoping that the owner will neuter Ryan, and bring in a new DC who can use what's here already.
John from Riverside Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 I'm holding out, hoping that the owner will neuter Ryan, and bring in a new DC who can use what's here already. If you do that then you might as well get rid of Rex because he IS the DC in reality which isnt happening
spillerhighlife Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 Its a matter of performance vs money being tied up I fully expect this team to go to a 34 defense......and that makes pass rushing DEs much less of a priority....you need down linemen to gobble up runners.....and your linebackers create the pressure So paying Mario all the money to stand there like he is doing right now is not smart..... Instead you - Put out a legit Nose - Move Marcel to one DE spot - Hughes moves to more of a linebacker - Will need more linebackers - hopefully Carrington comes back.....as he actually fits this role pretty well This D is gonna look a lot different next season....that is what I think. I like the idea of Dareus at DE. He can take up space and the double team. He can push the line and get to the QB. Hughes as a pass rushing lb in the 3-4 might not be as effextive as Dareus'position switch. I still see a plave for hi im on the defense though. I don't want to cut/trade Mario. Kyle might be gone after this season. I get that feeling from readng this board. I hopw it isnt so. I want to take a nt, if there is a quality player, in the first round. I don't watch enough college football to know. Might go check out that there crystal ball thread.
Prickly Pete Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 If you do that then you might as well get rid of Rex because he IS the DC in reality which isnt happening Probably not, but I sure as !@#$ can complain about it all I !@#$ing want. I like the idea of Dareus at DE. He can take up space and the double team. He can push the line and get to the QB. Hughes as a pass rushing lb in the 3-4 might not be as effextive as Dareus'position switch. I still see a plave for hi im on the defense though. I don't want to cut/trade Mario. Kyle might be gone after this season. I get that feeling from readng this board. I hopw it isnt so. I want to take a nt, if there is a quality player, in the first round. I don't watch enough college football to know. Might go check out that there crystal ball thread. So now, with all the holes on the O-line, the crap linebackers, iffy Safeties, and sub-par receivers, we should select a nose tackle. I don't like the way things are going.
John from Riverside Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 I like the idea of Dareus at DE. He can take up space and the double team. He can push the line and get to the QB. Hughes as a pass rushing lb in the 3-4 might not be as effextive as Dareus'position switch. I still see a plave for hi im on the defense though. I don't want to cut/trade Mario. Kyle might be gone after this season. I get that feeling from readng this board. I hopw it isnt so. I want to take a nt, if there is a quality player, in the first round. I don't watch enough college football to know. Might go check out that there crystal ball thread. The good news is you dont need to use a 1st round pick on a nose.....there will be veterans and guys later in the draft If I had to hazard a guess......I would say that 1st round pick is gonna be a monster LB
QB Bills Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Or, instead of revamping the front 7, fire Rex and bring back Schwartz. One change instead of a roster overhaul. Edited December 14, 2015 by QB Bills
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