Good read on diagnosing NFL plays as an "observer"

[3rdand12]

I think you paraphrased his point perfectly here..

 

"He is saying that without knowing what play was called and whether it was correctly communicated, any assumption made about what went wrong is only that, an assumption."

 

... and I think that point is invalid.

 

if I understand what a '2' represents in an equation, but don't understand what a '3' is - I may mistakenly interpret 2 + 2 + 3 to equal 4, because I can't account for the '3'. someone who recognizes the '3' will get the right answer without making assumptions.

That is obviously correct. scientifically correct nearly. and respect your football knowledge btw along with most posting on this.

But if you did not see the Coach draw the play up then know the options within the play. How could you be SURE of each assignment in detail? your making assumptions. You might make very detailed and correct assumptions. But it still is just that. Literally any ways

[BackInDaDay]

That is obviously correct. scientifically correct nearly. and respect your football knowledge btw along with most posting on this.

But if you did not see the Coach draw the play up then know the options within the play. How could you be SURE of each assignment in detail? your making assumptions. You might make very detailed and correct assumptions. But it still is just that. Literally any ways

 

ok.. you know i luv ya , but you know what i learned since reading your post? that the LG Britt was a back-up RT last season, and was smoked this preseason when playing RT.. so i'm thinking Cable moved him inside, because he's not so hot playing in space, and that their OL has had comm problems all this season.. oh, and this one i already knew - that Tom Cable loves zone blocking schemes, and that pass protections can be set as man, zone, or a combinations. so my first assumption is Cable's center was changing the zone to man on the left side, because he had a LT and RB to pick up two outside defenders - a 9-tech down lineman, and an LB blitz threat.. so he needed his LG to pick up the DT, so he could take care of the LB threatening an A gap blitz. they already had numbers to their advantage - on the right side - with 3 blocking 2 - so i'm assuming they we're gonna stay in zone there.add to this, you got the LG looking back at the QB as the C appears to be making the change, and bingo - ya got yourself an assumption that the LG missed the change, stayed in zone - where the discipline is normally to play the zone to your playside on a run and strongside on a pass- which would have made that A gap defender his priority - instead of the DT to his left.. who would have been the LT's.

 

my only question is, who told the writer it wasn't the LG's fault? the LG?

 

now.. could Wilson have been giving his LG specific instructions while the C was changing things up? sure, there's an outside chance if he was gonna audiblie to a draw or screen to his side.. but that wasn't the play he was trying to execute.

[3rdand12]

 

ok.. you know i luv ya , but you know what i learned since reading your post? that the LG Britt was a back-up RT last season, and was smoked this preseason when playing RT.. so i'm thinking Cable moved him inside, because he's not so hot playing in space, and that their OL has had comm problems all this season.. oh, and this one i already knew - that Tom Cable loves zone blocking schemes, and that pass protections can be set as man, zone, or a combinations. so my first assumption is Cable's center was changing the zone to man on the left side, because he had a LT and RB to pick up two outside defenders - a 9-tech down lineman, and an LB blitz threat.. so he needed his LG to pick up the DT, so he could take care of the LB threatening an A gap blitz. they already had numbers to their advantage - on the right side - with 3 blocking 2 - so i'm assuming they we're gonna stay in zone there.add to this, you got the LG looking back at the QB as the C appears to be making the change, and bingo - ya got yourself an assumption that the LG missed the change, stayed in zone - where the discipline is normally to play the zone to your playside on a run and strongside on a pass- which would have made that A gap defender his priority - instead of the DT to his left.. who would have been the LT's.

 

my only question is, who told the writer it wasn't the LG's fault? the LG?

 

now.. could Wilson have been giving his LG specific instructions while the C was changing things up? sure, there's an outside chance if he was gonna audiblie to a draw or screen to his side.. but that wasn't the play he was trying to execute.

well run me over with a diesel tractor.

 

I love gorey details that you and some our fine feathered friends here provide.

But within the Bell Curve you are in the minority.

 

When a player has clearly whiffed i think even I can assume he blew the execution. and sometimes i can do the same with a poor play call.

But sure as hell cant dissect what you describe with any authority.

 

And I think highly of you too brother!

But i am only pointing out that as fans and possibly journalists ( definitely journalists/writers) we have to make assumptions. How close to correct they are differs for each perceiver. Unless you called the play.

 

I know we are getting into conjecture and semantics at some point, and it is all in fun i think.

 

But i am correct, of course.

you are assuming i am not.

ha !!

Edited December 12, 2015 by 3rdand12

[BackInDaDay]

But i am correct, of course.

you are assuming i am not.

 

now that's an argument i can live with..

[3rdand12]

 

now that's an argument i can live with..

as can I yours BiDD.

 

Gentleman, you are always.

Cheers!