Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 What's more important? What should you get first? Build a great OL or get a good QB then address the OL? CBF
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) QB. See Brady, Rodgers, Wilson, Luck (before this year), Newton working with crap and/or patchwork OLs and still making it work. Dallas supposedly has best OL in league yet can't win a game without Romo. OL more important for running game, IMO. Edited December 4, 2015 by YoloinOhio
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 It's easier to build an OL than find a QB. Ideally, we should draft both every year until we're an offensive juggernaut.
Fan in Chicago Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 What's more important? What should you get first? Build a great OL or get a good QB then address the OL? CBF A QB, any time a good one is available.
DC Tom Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 What's more important? What should you get first? Build a great OL or get a good QB then address the OL? CBF Buy good refs. Then the OL is good (they get to hold.) Then just plug in any sixth-round pick behind them, and he'll be an All-Pro.
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 As Dareus said, you could put a row of garbage cans in front of Brady and if he's getting the ball out in 2 seconds and throwing 90 percent of the time, with no need to run, it won't matter.
RyanC883 Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 OL. No great QB's in the draft class. Go after a FA QB like Stafford.
thebandit27 Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 There's no debate at all. QBs win without great OLs all the time. Brady, Wilson, Rodgers, Big Ben...they all play (or have played) for some time behind lousy OLs. It's great to have a good OL, but it's useless without a good QB; the converse is not true at all.
BarleyNY Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) You get your QB whenever, however you can. The only exception is when you have a reasonably young, proven franchise QB entrenched on your roster. In that case if one falls in your lap, you either still take him or you ransom him off. Edited December 4, 2015 by BarleyNY
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Great qb. Period. Single most important position in any sport and his play affects everyone else on the field for better or worse.
Mr. WEO Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 This is an age old debate? Ask any team who has spent a top 5 pick on a LT over the past 10 years or so....or ask their QBs.
Mairofpominville Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) Do what Dallas did and build that O line. That way you can have any running back run through holes as big as the Lincoln Tunnel. Edited December 4, 2015 by Mairofpominville
Rob's House Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 If your O-line is garbage then you're going to have a bad time regardless, but I'd rather have a good QB behind a mediocre line than a mediocre QB behind a great line.
thebandit27 Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 If your O-line is garbage then you're going to have a bad time regardless, but I'd rather have a good QB behind a mediocre line than a mediocre QB behind a great line. Nah...Seattle won a Superbowl with a garbage OL. Granted, it makes it more difficult, but a great QB can mitigate a LOT of the damage. Brady's out there with mostly no-name guys getting it done (I realize he's exceptional, but he's also one of the best examples).
Rob's House Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Nah...Seattle won a Superbowl with a garbage OL. Granted, it makes it more difficult, but a great QB can mitigate a LOT of the damage. Brady's out there with mostly no-name guys getting it done (I realize he's exceptional, but he's also one of the best examples). I don't agree that their line was garbage at all. Mediocre maybe, but not garbage. Plus, Russell Wilson's a bit of a one off as far as being able to compensate for pass protection. WRT Brady, outside of the Bills game he's gotten at least borderline adequate protection despite having no-names, and he's still doing just enough to get by, but his production's dropped too. Without a couple of missed tackles he gets shut down against the Bills. And we're talking about a guy in the running for GOAT.
thebandit27 Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 I don't agree that their line was garbage at all. Mediocre maybe, but not garbage. Plus, Russell Wilson's a bit of a one off as far as being able to compensate for pass protection. WRT Brady, outside of the Bills game he's gotten at least borderline adequate protection despite having no-names, and he's still doing just enough to get by, but his production's dropped too. Without a couple of missed tackles he gets shut down against the Bills. And we're talking about a guy in the running for GOAT. I believe that Wilson was among the most-sacked QBs in the NFL each of the last 2 seasons, and is there again this year. I agree that he compensates, but my point is simply that he's not really an outlier. The year that Ben and Rodgers met in the Superbowl, each was among the most-sacked QBs in the league. Brady does his line far more favors than they do for him, as I'm sure you know. I'm fine disagreeing, as I'm only trying to say that a good QB can overcome a deficient OL more readily than a good OL can help a deficient QB.
metzelaars_lives Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) I'm going to pre-emptively note that the Bills' OL, despite everyone saying so every season whether they are actually good or not, does not suck this year. The left side of our line is one of the very best in all of football. The right side, not so much. But not everyone has five good starters left to right every year. Classic example of Bills fans scrutinizing our guys' every play and then basing their ideas about other teams on what they understand to be true. Carry on. Re-signing Glenn and Incognito is a HUGE priority. Edited December 4, 2015 by metzelaars_lives
shibuya Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 you never pass on a potential long term Starting QB to address the OL. But if you have solid QB's you best invest in OL
....lybob Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 A great QB is more important than an OL but you can mess up a potentially good QB behind a bad OL - I think Archie Manning is a case in point
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