Trump Alone at the Top

[Azalin]

He's a Democrat therefore he is a radical leftist.

 

I know a pretty fair amount of democrats who aren't leftist at all, and that frequently vote republican and libertarian. It's probably a Texas thing - the family has been democrat for generations, but vote that way less & less as the party moves left.

[Dante]

 

I have been a Democrat my entire life, but this election has sickened me. The political world has turned upside down, for me.

Democrats aren't like the democrats from 30 years ago. There like something out of the old Soviet Union. Edited October 6, 2016 by Dante

[Keukasmallies]

I think of the two major political parties as two drug-selling street gangs fighting over a particularly lucrative street corner. Each wants to defeat the other, but really doesn't care about the neighborhood.

[unbillievable]

 

I know a pretty fair amount of democrats who aren't leftist at all, and that frequently vote republican and libertarian. It's probably a Texas thing - the family has been democrat for generations, but vote that way less & less as the party moves left.

 

Starting to understand how Trump could be a lifelong democrat but be the Republican nominee? Everything has gone so far left, that moderates now populate the alt right.

[B-Man]

Three Largest Police Unions Endorse Trump In Crucial Battleground State

by Ted Goodman

Original Article

 

 

 

 

In TV Ads, Senate Democrats Avoid Trump.

[Dante]

 

I know a pretty fair amount of democrats who aren't leftist at all, and that frequently vote republican and libertarian. It's probably a Texas thing - the family has been democrat for generations, but vote that way less & less as the party moves left.

I think most mature Democrats aren't "leftists" let alone radical. I guess I'm thinking more in terms of the people who got into government. I think they are a different party. I suppose you could lump in university students with them who have been radicalized.

[B-Man]

The Reporting of Trump’s PTSD Comments Shows Why His Supporters Hate the Media

The point of political reporting is to help provide context, not obscure it.

 

Monday's coverage of Donald Trump's speech to veterans is a prime illustration of a trend noticed in September by Salena Zito over at The Atlantic: Some reporters and headline writers are taking Trump's comments very literally rather than attempting to address the substance or trying to plumb what he's really getting at. Trump's supporters are the exact opposite—they're interpreting what he actually means from his rather inarticulate way of saying what he has to say. The gulf between the two cultures has inflamed the anger of Trump supporters over how the media behaves.

 

And honestly, with the way the media—or at least media headlines—have approached Trump's comments on Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and veterans' health treatment, I honestly don't blame the Trump supporters. Here's what Trump actually said when asked about veterans and current suicide rates:

 

When you talk about the mental health problems when people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe a lot of folks in this room have seen many times over, and you're strong and you can handle it, but a lot of people can't handle it, and they see horror stories, they see events that you couldn't see in a movie, nobody would believe it. Now we need a mental health help and medical and it's one of the things that I think is least addressed and it's one of the things I hear — like your question — one of the things I hear most about when I go around and talk to the veterans.

So we're going to have a very, very robust, very very robust level of performance having to do with mental health. We are losing so many great people that can be taken care of if they have proper care.

You know when you hear the 22 suicides a day, it's a big part of your question, but when you hear the 22 suicides a day, that should never be. That should never be, So we're going to be addressing that very strongly.

And the whole mental health issue is going to be a very important issue when I take over, and the VA is going to be fixed in so many ways, but that's gonna be one of the ways we're gonna help. And that's in many respects going to be the number one thing we have to do because I think it's really been left behind. Ok? Thank you very much.

 

So there is a path of criticism of Trump here, which is—just like many things he says in his public speeches—there's little actual content. There's a promise that things will be better under him with no real explanation why that will actually be the case.

 

 

What is not a legitimate path of criticism is to look at the totality of these comments and suggest that Trump thinks veterans are weak or that he somehow doesn't want to support them. And yet, that's exactly what happened due to writers deciding to run with "some people can't take it" and emphasize it in headlines like 'Trump Suggests that Soldiers with PTSD Aren't 'Strong,'" and the even more weaselly "Trump Appears to Suggest that Veterans with PTSD Are Not 'Strong.'" [emphasis added]

 

And, obviously, the Democrats are running with it, with Vice President Joe Biden responding with blustering outrage and Hillary Clinton's Twitter feed reminding folks of previous very stupid things (but unrelated) Trump has said about veterans.

 

But that first part of Trump's response makes perfect sense to somebody putting out a sales pitch, and the outrage is completely phony. Trump is suggesting that the folks in the crowd are strong as he pivots to the discussion of mental health issues, because, frankly, a lot of people who need help don't actually want to admit it. He's providing an answer to these veterans without suggesting to them that any of them in particular need to take advantage of it. It's actually a clever way of approaching the discussion that somebody with Trump's background might understand and somebody who has spent his or her life in public administration might not. He's selling access to a mental health service while grasping that the people who may need it are very reluctant to admit it. "This is for those other guys, not you guys," he's saying. But you would have to be pretty dense (or deliberately disingenuous) to think that Trump was unaware that there are people in that room who need help with PTSD.

Edited October 6, 2016 by B-Man

[Prickly Pete]

The Reporting of Trump’s PTSD Comments Shows Why His Supporters Hate the Media

The point of political reporting is to help provide context, not obscure it.

 

Monday's coverage of Donald Trump's speech to veterans is a prime illustration of a trend noticed in September by Salena Zito over at The Atlantic: Some reporters and headline writers are taking Trump's comments very literally rather than attempting to address the substance or trying to plumb what he's really getting at. Trump's supporters are the exact opposite—they're interpreting what he actually means from his rather inarticulate way of saying what he has to say. The gulf between the two cultures has inflamed the anger of Trump supporters over how the media behaves.

 

And honestly, with the way the media—or at least media headlines—have approached Trump's comments on Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and veterans' health treatment, I honestly don't blame the Trump supporters. Here's what Trump actually said when asked about veterans and current suicide rates:

 

 

So there is a path of criticism of Trump here, which is—just like many things he says in his public speeches—there's little actual content. There's a promise that things will be better under him with no real explanation why that will actually be the case.

 

 

What is not a legitimate path of criticism is to look at the totality of these comments and suggest that Trump thinks veterans are weak or that he somehow doesn't want to support them. And yet, that's exactly what happened due to writers deciding to run with "some people can't take it" and emphasize it in headlines like 'Trump Suggests that Soldiers with PTSD Aren't 'Strong,'" and the even more weaselly "Trump Appears to Suggest that Veterans with PTSD Are Not 'Strong.'" [emphasis added]

 

And, obviously, the Democrats are running with it, with Vice President Joe Biden responding with blustering outrage and Hillary Clinton's Twitter feed reminding folks of previous very stupid things (but unrelated) Trump has said about veterans.

 

But that first part of Trump's response makes perfect sense to somebody putting out a sales pitch, and the outrage is completely phony. Trump is suggesting that the folks in the crowd are strong as he pivots to the discussion of mental health issues, because, frankly, a lot of people who need help don't actually want to admit it. He's providing an answer to these veterans without suggesting to them that any of them in particular need to take advantage of it. It's actually a clever way of approaching the discussion that somebody with Trump's background might understand and somebody who has spent his or her life in public administration might not. He's selling access to a mental health service while grasping that the people who may need it are very reluctant to admit it. "This is for those other guys, not you guys," he's saying. But you would have to be pretty dense (or deliberately disingenuous) to think that Trump was unaware that there are people in that room who need help with PTSD.

 

It's all obvious bull ****. Anyone that cares, has already figured out that the media is smearing Trump. No one is changing their mind over this kind of disinformation.

[Nanker]

Trump's up on HiLiary by about 70 points with Vets. Clinton's cadre of assassins will do whatever they can to eat away at those numbers. Even going so far as to pull sick **** like this. Every day 3-4 Vets kill themselves. If that's not a clear indication that "they can't take it" then what the hell is? They need help and he at least has given millions to Vet charities. The KKKlintons haven't done shite.

[DC Tom]

Trump's up on HiLiary by about 70 points with Vets. Clinton's cadre of assassins will do whatever they can to eat away at those numbers. Even going so far as to pull sick **** like this. Every day 3-4 Vets kill themselves. If that's not a clear indication that "they can't take it" then what the hell is? They need help and he at least has given millions to Vet charities. The KKKlintons haven't done shite.

 

"They can't take it" is an awful interpretation of mental illness.

[Chef Jim]

 

"They can't take it" is an awful interpretation of mental illness.

 

Awful? You're way too kind.

[DC Tom]

Ch-ch-ch-chia!

 

https://www.seenontv.com/product/chia-donald-trump/?ref=astvdb

[Nanker]

Should market a Sham-Wow! for both of 'em.

[TH3]

Judging by the way he looks, speaks, and acts, he is a complete chump that shouldn't be anywhere near the presidency. Maybe you identify with him in some way, I don't know. Not me.

 

Are you talking about Trump?

[/dev/null]

I was stuck watching CNN earlier today and they literally had a Breaking News segment about how Trump was talking about women with vulgar terms back in 2005. They had "exclusive" leaked video and everything

 

Meanwhile talking up how it will affect the debate (co-hosted by them of course) coming up in two days

 

Breaking News!

[Benjamin Franklin]

I was stuck watching CNN earlier today and they literally had a Breaking News segment about how Trump was talking about women with vulgar terms back in 2005. They had "exclusive" leaked video and everything

 

Meanwhile talking up how it will affect the debate (co-hosted by them of course) coming up in two days

 

Breaking News!

 

Stepping out of the political and into Media Bashing by B-Man , I hate how every network has BREAKING NEWS every 5 minutes.

[/dev/null]

 

Stepping out of the political and into Media Bashing by B-Man , I hate how every network has BREAKING NEWS every 5 minutes.

 

Donald Trump was an !@#$ in 2005 = BREAKING NEWS!

 

Hiliary Clinton was an inconsequential Senator from 2001-2009 whose only notable action was a vote for the Iraq War and whose track record as Secretary of State from 2009-2013 was an abject failure = MOVE ON!

[Doc]

I guess that makes Trump no worse than Slick.

[B-Man]

I guess that makes Trump no worse than Slick.

 

Gennifer Flowers: Bill Clinton Told Me 'Hillary Had Eaten More P*ssy Than He Had'...

[Magox]

That one is going to hurt.