DC Tom Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 He risked losing a portion of his soft base support, and I think last night's debate helped solidify that support. In regards to the more moderate supporters that are needed in the coalition to win the W.H, I don't think there really is anything he could do to win them over. His only hope is for Hillary to have an extremely low turnout. I've been saying that for quite a while: this election will come down to turnout more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Let me guess, having Trump line up Willie's hit parade in the front row on national TV was all part of Clinton's plan to get the coronation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Let me guess, having Trump line up Willie's hit parade in the front row on national TV was all part of Clinton's plan to get the coronation? I am not in the tinfoil hat brigade but I'm guessing that Trump's actions didn't move the needle one bit for any undecided or fence-sitting voter. To the extent I care about Bill's accusers and their relationship to Hillary, I care a hell of a lot more about plans for the economy, foreign policy especially wrt the Middle East and Russia, ideas for Obamacare because you can't just pull the plug on it in a day, etc. Trump made issue #78 the talk of the day, like the moron he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I've been saying that for quite a while: this election will come down to turnout more than anything. Yes, and fear of the alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I am not in the tinfoil hat brigade but I'm guessing that Trump's actions didn't move the needle one bit for any undecided or fence-sitting voter. To the extent I care about Bill's accusers and their relationship to Hillary, I care a hell of a lot more about plans for the economy, foreign policy especially wrt the Middle East and Russia, ideas for Obamacare because you can't just pull the plug on it in a day, etc. Trump made issue #78 the talk of the day, like the moron he is. I care a lot more about having a Congress that will step up, do its job, and put the brakes on the increasingly authoritarian executive office. I just happen to think Trump's the best chance of that happening because too many people believe Hillary can do no wrong...whereas virtually no one believes that about Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I care a lot more about having a Congress that will step up, do its job, and put the brakes on the increasingly authoritarian executive office. I just happen to think Trump's the best chance of that happening because too many people believe Hillary can do no wrong...whereas virtually no one believes that about Trump. Is there a way to help Congress do its job without the commander in chief being a reality TV star? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I am not in the tinfoil hat brigade but I'm guessing that Trump's actions didn't move the needle one bit for any undecided or fence-sitting voter. That wasn't my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I am not in the tinfoil hat brigade but I'm guessing that Trump's actions didn't move the needle one bit for any undecided or fence-sitting voter. To the extent I care about Bill's accusers and their relationship to Hillary, I care a hell of a lot more about plans for the economy, foreign policy especially wrt the Middle East and Russia, ideas for Obamacare because you can't just pull the plug on it in a day, etc. Trump made issue #78 the talk of the day, like the moron he is. Bad guess. And you're an idiot if you didn't think that LIAR bringing-out the 2005 video wasn't going to answered. And like I told you he would, he did far better last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I care a lot more about having a Congress that will step up, do its job, and put the brakes on the increasingly authoritarian executive office. I just happen to think Trump's the best chance of that happening because too many people believe Hillary can do no wrong...whereas virtually no one believes that about Trump. This is where I've been for awhile now. The only fear with Trump is that since the cat's been out of the bag for awhile now he might continue to abuse Executive Orders as a tool (I just presume that Hillary will do it). Is there a way to help Congress do its job without the commander in chief being a reality TV star? No. In fact it may be the only thing that pushes Congress to actually act like adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 The only fear with Trump is that since the cat's been out of the bag for awhile now he might continue to abuse Executive Orders as a tool (I just presume that Hillary will do it). Yeah, but the thing is that if Hillary does, she's only going to piss off the opposition. The Democrats will be in lock-step behind her. But if Trump does it, I guarantee he will piss off everybody. Is there a way to help Congress do its job without the commander in chief being a reality TV star? Elect better Congresscritters. Other than that... Did you hear Brawndo has electrolytes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 They did not F up....this is the culmination of 30 years of Rush Fox Coulter Jones...Electing Bush, Palin....never balancing the budget, chasing idiotic social issues....never shrinking the govt....This is your GOP....The GOP Is its voting base.... Why, it's almost like there was never a two-year period where the WH, House and Senate were all under Dem rule. Imagine if they didn't piss away that opportunity exclusively on a health insurance law that has made things worse for pretty much everyone except the people who passed the law, and that's only because the people who passed the law exempted themselves from it. But hey...GOP bad, amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I've been saying that for quite a while: this election will come down to turnout more than anything. I'd have to agree with your sentiment. These candidates are uniquely unlikeable. I don't think there will be much crossing over to the " other side " on account of either one of them. It will come down to how many are driven enough to go to the polls, whether it's Clinton folks, Trump folks, or those so disgusted they will vote for Johnson ( or that Green Party nut) , or simply stay at home . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Why, it's almost like there was never a two-year period where the WH, House and Senate were all under Dem rule. Imagine if they didn't piss away that opportunity exclusively on a health insurance law that has made things worse for pretty much everyone except the people who passed the law, and that's only because the people who passed the law exempted themselves from it. But hey...GOP bad, amirite? Hey to be fair the only reason the Democrat controlled House and filibuster proof Democrat controlled Senate couldn't anything done with a Democrat President was because of the obstructionist Party of No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 But if Trump does it, I guarantee he will piss off everybody. Which is a good thing. And yes I know that was your point. He might just be the one person that can bring this country together. Yeah right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Hey to be fair the only reason the Democrat controlled House and filibuster proof Democrat controlled Senate couldn't anything done with a Democrat President was because of the obstructionist Party of No Well, that and, according to baskin, "Electing...Palin." I really wish we never elected her. That was when all the trouble began. Things would be so much better if the GOP just never elected her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Yeah, but the thing is that if Hillary does, she's only going to piss off the opposition. The Democrats will be in lock-step behind her. But if Trump does it, I guarantee he will piss off everybody. One reason to vote for Trump. Checks and balances back in line. ...looking for a silver lining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 One reason to vote for Trump. Checks and balances back in line. ...looking for a silver lining. That's not a small thing............ If Clinton wins it will be a monarchy. If Trump wins, there will be bipartisan efforts to keep him in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 And like I told you he would, he did far better last night. Of course. I said he'd do better in debate #2 also. Much more circus in the town hall setting. In 9 days, he'll be back to having to use his brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 TO ASK THE QUESTION IS TO ANSWER IT: Why Did NBC News Sit on the Trump Tape for So Long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Let me guess, having Trump line up Willie's hit parade in the front row on national TV was all part of Clinton's plan to get the coronation? Honesty just isn't your bag, is it? You've used that one. If you're going to make bad tin foil hat jokes from the 80s, at least don't reuse memes. I know it's hard for you to come to grips with the truth, but at least be more creative when you're lashing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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